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Schiavo Foundation Urges Wife of Disabled Jacksonville Man to Err on the Side of Life
Christian Communication Network ^ | 5/14/2005 | Pamela Hennessey

Posted on 05/14/2005 2:09:03 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater

Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation Urges Wife of Disabled Jacksonville Man to Err on the Side of Life

To: National Desk

Contact: Pamela F. Hennessy for the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation, 727-445-1766, phenn@zimp.org

CLEARWATER, Fl., May 14 /Christian Wire Service/ –- The volunteers with the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation, along with the family of Terri Schiavo, are urging Jacksonville, Florida resident, Eliza Thomas, to allow her 34 year old husband to live.

The Foundation has learned that Scott Thomas suffered brain injury in September of 2004 and has since been incapacitated and dependent on others. His mother, Pamela Patton, has petitioned the courts for guardianship of the disabled man and was awarded a temporary guardianship which could expire as early as June 3, 2005. Mr. Thomas's wife, Eliza, is currently seeking to take his guardianship over.

Ms. Patton is currently pursuing neurological testing and treatment options with a Clearwater, Florida neurologist, Dr. William Hammesfahr.

Mrs. Thomas, however, has reportedly stated that her intention is to move her husband to the Community Hospice of Northeast Florida and seek the authority to direct the removal of his gastric feeding tube, causing his death by dehydration and starvation.

According to Ms. Patton, her son speaks a limited vocabulary, gives affirmative and negative hand signals and has successfully answered questions of where he lives, where he attended school and his situation. She states that he is aware and oriented.

The volunteers of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation are urging Florida's Department of Children and Families (Florida's social services agency) to investigate the circumstances surrounding Mr. Thomas's injuries and to ensure that he is not currently a victim of abuse and neglect.

Terri Schiavo's family is asking Mrs. Eliza Thomas to err on the side of life. According to them, the dehydration and starvation death suffered by their daughter in March of this year was anything but a peaceful and painless death.

Statement of Bob Schindler, Terri Schiavo's father: The suffering our daughter endured and her death over the course of nearly two weeks was horrific. I am pleading with Mrs. Thomas to please reconsider her decision to seek the removal of Scott's feeding tube and to allow him to receive the therapy and rehabilitation he needs to improve. I beg Mrs. Thomas to give her husband a chance.



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We have ANOTHER ONE in Florida, and in Senator King's hometown no less!

AM, I trimmed the title to fit the 100 char limit.
Could we please keep this in frontpage? It is certain to hit most of the MSM soon.

1 posted on 05/14/2005 2:09:05 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater
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To: Ohioan from Florida; amdgmary; sweetliberty; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter; nicmarlo; ...

Heads up for another florida case.


2 posted on 05/14/2005 2:10:32 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: Future Useless Eater

How many hours until death groupie Felos shows up to read the man's mind?


3 posted on 05/14/2005 2:15:06 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Future Useless Eater

Another murder in the disguise of humanitarian euthanasia... and down the slippery slope we go.


4 posted on 05/14/2005 2:20:42 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball)
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To: Future Useless Eater; BykrBayb; Netizen

Just making sure everyone is on notice.


5 posted on 05/14/2005 2:21:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Future Useless Eater
Its none of the Schiavo Foundation's business what medical care decisions a spouse makes for an incapacitated patient. It's between the spouse, the doctor, and the spouse's God.

Unfortunately, that's something the Schindler's were entirely blind to.

6 posted on 05/14/2005 2:21:30 PM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: jude24

Great, another FReeper who thinks a spouse's rights includes the right to murder a disabled husband or wife.


7 posted on 05/14/2005 2:22:46 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball)
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To: Future Useless Eater

TY I agree this definitely needs its own thread.


8 posted on 05/14/2005 2:24:24 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: thoughtomator

Stop using the word DISABLED.


9 posted on 05/14/2005 2:25:06 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: jude24

A monster has been created, one that can come and subvert your families rights and then leave, not caring what happens. I pity these people.


10 posted on 05/14/2005 2:26:03 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Hildy

Ok, let me correct the statement.

"Gee, another FReeper who thinks a spouse's rights includes the right to murder his/her husband or wife."


11 posted on 05/14/2005 2:28:05 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball)
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To: Hildy; thoughtomator; amdgmary; BykrBayb
>>>Stop using the word DISABLED.

What's wrong with the word 'disabled'?

It came right out of the ORIGINAL STORY:


12 posted on 05/14/2005 2:29:58 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: Future Useless Eater; Hildy

It's not fair to use an accurate word directly from the story when it sheds a poor light on the Consitutional right to murder one's spouse.


13 posted on 05/14/2005 2:30:59 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball)
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To: Hildy

Nothing wrong with using the word "disabled."

Kinda touchy, aren't you?

Wonder why that is?


14 posted on 05/14/2005 2:31:13 PM PDT by k2blader ('Lost' ping list - Please FReepmail me if you want on/off. :-)
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To: k2blader

Why is it that whenever we try to reasonably debate your side, it ALWAYS ends up in a personal attack.


15 posted on 05/14/2005 2:33:37 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: thoughtomator

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE EXISTING LAWS, CHANGE THEM...but to characterize people, who are going through the worst time of their lives, as murderers is outrageous and mean and it serves no purpose but to make yourselvse feel superior.


16 posted on 05/14/2005 2:35:05 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Future Useless Eater
Links to Jacksonville Media

The Florida Times Union

First Coast News (WTLV gave $500 to King's 2000 campaign)

Fox 30 WAWS

News 4 Jax

AM 690 Talk Radio

AM 1320 The Patriot

I emailed the link and article from The Empire Journal, EXCLUSIVE Cognizant Jacksonville Man in Life and Death Tug-of-War to all the media in Jax this morning. So far nothing on any of the sites. I do expect that David Allen (9 p.m. on The Patriot) will pick it up but I am skeptical on the others.

17 posted on 05/14/2005 2:35:54 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: Hildy

Oh those poor murderers, I am so insensitive to their feelings. I should be tied up and shot for my insensitivity.


18 posted on 05/14/2005 2:36:16 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball)
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To: jude24
>Its none of the Schiavo Foundation's business what medical care decisions a spouse makes for an incapacitated patient

You are right, of course,
but activists for this cause
only care about

their own self-righteous
posturing and willful whims.
You'll hear and earful!

19 posted on 05/14/2005 2:36:17 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Hildy

It is not "reasonable debate" to whine about the article using the word "disabled."

Are you opposed to the word "touchy" too?


20 posted on 05/14/2005 2:36:57 PM PDT by k2blader ('Lost' ping list - Please FReepmail me if you want on/off. :-)
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To: k2blader

Just like you don't believe the things you read, I look at the source and I don't believe the facts as their stating it. I don't believe this man talks or anything else like it. There is no way a wife would order the feeding tube removed from a spouse who can communicate. Not only wouldn't it happen, the laws wouldn't allow it to happen. I'm going to do my own research on this, because it doesn't pass the smell test.


21 posted on 05/14/2005 2:38:24 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Hildy; k2blader

OK, what is the PC term you think we should use?


22 posted on 05/14/2005 2:40:06 PM PDT by Nightshift (Faith is something everyone has. The question is faith in what?)
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To: Future Useless Eater
They ghouls are back. Someone has to be a sociopath to get a kick out of having another human being starved and dehydrated to death. Scott Peterson could well be a free man if he had opted for the Michael Schiavo method.
23 posted on 05/14/2005 2:41:15 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: k2blader

Joshua Farver and his teacher Susan Perry display the card they made to be sent to Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Photo Credit: Chris Mitchell

24 posted on 05/14/2005 2:41:43 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: jude24

WWII wasn't any of our business either.


25 posted on 05/14/2005 2:42:17 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: tutstar

Beautiful.. :'-)


26 posted on 05/14/2005 2:42:55 PM PDT by k2blader ('Lost' ping list - Please FReepmail me if you want on/off. :-)
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To: Dante3

You're right about that.

Thing is the courts should not have the authority to end a life of a person who has not been convicted of a crime.


27 posted on 05/14/2005 2:44:25 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: jude24

You mean we have the right to kill our spouses?


28 posted on 05/14/2005 2:44:42 PM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: jude24

How about the law? You left out the law ~ are you seriously arguing that murder among consenting adults is OK?


29 posted on 05/14/2005 2:45:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hildy
So, you are back on this one. Are you going to start telling us about the different ways your father died, or about how peaceful starvation is?

The moderator you fooled on that thread last night didn't realize how devious you were until a later poster who joined just today started talking about the detailed content of a post he claims he hadn't seen.

That meant that YOU informed him. Although you claimed to be offended and upset, and it was wrong and all that, you couldn't control yourself enough to keep from broadcasting the story.

That's why I'm starting out this thread with a complaint to the Moderator to the effect that you are a chronic complainant who is not really interested in eliminating a supposedly offending post ~ just one who wants to harrass other posters with deletion notices.

30 posted on 05/14/2005 2:48:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: k2blader

It is! I know kids like this. The original article said that many of the kids in this class had a feeding tube.

Florida law does not protect the life of a person who is in good health from having their feeding tube removed. Sad to think one of them could end up being starved.

http://www.dcmsonline.org/jax-medicine/2001journals/May2001/choices.htm
This makes a good synopsis on the law.


31 posted on 05/14/2005 2:49:30 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: Honestfreedom
>You mean we have the right to kill our spouses?


Well, we have the right
to just laugh at people who
twist words pointlessly!

32 posted on 05/14/2005 2:50:19 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Hildy
You never reasonably approach the debate. Last night you got caught in a big lie and then you ran to the moderator with a complaint. We all know who you are and where you stand. It's pretty obvious you are beyond mere debate.

BTW, you still planning on murdering me?

33 posted on 05/14/2005 2:51:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
>The moderator you fooled on that thread last night didn't realize how devious you were


34 posted on 05/14/2005 2:51:43 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: muawiyah
That's why I'm starting out this thread with a complaint to the Moderator to the effect that you are a chronic complainant who is not really interested in eliminating a supposedly offending post

Pot-kettle-black.

35 posted on 05/14/2005 2:55:07 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: muawiyah

This is the last time I'm going to address you because you are a disturbed human being, but I will set the record straight. I did not say anything to any moderator. Fools don't bother me, they always show the world just how foolish they are so why would I report you and stop you from doing what you do best...like you are now. Yes, and accusing me of killing my Father is something that did offend me...but it says more about you, don't you get that?


36 posted on 05/14/2005 2:55:18 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: jude24

Since when did deciding whether or not to murder your inconvenient spouse by dehydration become a medical decision???


37 posted on 05/14/2005 2:55:37 PM PDT by candeee
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To: Hildy
Who accused you of killing your father? No one did!

You described two different ways your father died on two different threads.

No doubt you will come up with a third for this thread. There are probably yet other ways he died reported on other threads in the past.

38 posted on 05/14/2005 2:57:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: candeee

It's Florida law. "Sustenance and hydration" are considered medical treatments in Florida law. Until that law is changed, these incidents will continue to happen.


39 posted on 05/14/2005 2:57:55 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: muawiyah

Your interpretation of my description of my Father's death is so outrageous, insulting and beyond contempt. You truly need help, and I hope you get it.


40 posted on 05/14/2005 2:59:07 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: sinkspur

Beer joints and restaurants in Florida are the rough equivalent of hospitals.


41 posted on 05/14/2005 3:00:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hildy

Your "two different descriptions" ~ to be precise.


42 posted on 05/14/2005 3:00:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hildy
You are not a victim. You are somebody.

Now, repeat after me "I am somebody".

(Words of wisdom from Jesse Jackson ~ very applicable in this case.)

43 posted on 05/14/2005 3:01:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

accusing me of lying about my Father's death is despicable. You are a despicable human being.


44 posted on 05/14/2005 3:07:45 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Future Useless Eater

I wonder if she can get him out of Florida?


45 posted on 05/14/2005 3:15:47 PM PDT by bjs1779 ("It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter".-JimRobinson)
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To: muawiyah

Knock it off.


46 posted on 05/14/2005 3:18:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

As Yogi Berra would say..............................;-)


47 posted on 05/14/2005 3:22:30 PM PDT by verity (A mindset is an antidote to logic.)
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To: jude24
Its none of the Schiavo Foundation's business what medical care decisions a spouse makes for an incapacitated patient. It's between the spouse, the doctor, and the spouse's God. Unfortunately, that's something the Schindler's were entirely blind to.

It is all of society's business to prevent cold-blooded murder. Have you lost your mind?

48 posted on 05/14/2005 3:30:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts..." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: theFIRMbss
You are right, of course,

Since when is it allowable in America to murder citizens? I just can't believe you could think this is right!

49 posted on 05/14/2005 3:33:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts..." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: EternalVigilance

Evidently many do justify it. I think it's sad.


50 posted on 05/14/2005 3:35:59 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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