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Adam, your posts are saddening, but true. I'm afraid there IS a financial disincentive for marriage, and especially for men. But what is the remedy?

I believe that government and society do have an obligation to do what they can to encourage the furtherance of the species and the country by encouraging families. The only means they have to do this is through monetary and tax policy. Would you support a movement to change those policies in ways that would support families? Would that change your mind about marriage?

Or, maybe it's too late for you, but future generations of men could be reached before it's too late.

I truly believe that the future of mankind lies with building on what we have learned and done in Western civilization. If we do not have children, all of what has been built over the centuries will be lost.

Paying women to have illegitimate children has worked - we now have LOTS of them. The sexes are perpetually angry at each other. Far too many people would rather have casual or paid sex than a true relationship.

It is sad, bad and dangerous. I would like to see it changed. Would you?

Thank you for a civil response.

But what is the remedy? I believe that government and society do have an obligation to do what they can to encourage the furtherance of the species and the country by encouraging families. The only means they have to do this is through monetary and tax policy. Would you support a movement to change those policies in ways that would support families?

Laissez-nous faire

Half of our problem today is social engineering run amok. More social engineering is unlikely to help.

Culture and civility are more important to civilization than law. These united States have spent the last several generations destroying the foundations of civil society.

It is sad, bad and dangerous. I would like to see it changed. Would you?

Absolutely, but we didn't paint ourselves into to this corner overnight and nor will we escape our current dilemma overnight.

Its not simply a matter of knowing what to do.

Decadence is *knowing* the correct course of action but being incapable of taking that course.

I believe that government and society do have an obligation to do what they can to encourage the furtherance of the species and the country by encouraging families. The only means they have to do this is through monetary and tax policy. Would you support a movement to change those policies in ways that would support families? Would that change your mind about marriage?

Or, maybe it's too late for you, but future generations of men could be reached before it's too late.

I truly believe that the future of mankind lies with building on what we have learned and done in Western civilization. If we do not have children, all of what has been built over the centuries will be lost.

Paying women to have illegitimate children has worked - we now have LOTS of them. The sexes are perpetually angry at each other. Far too many people would rather have casual or paid sex than a true relationship.

It is sad, bad and dangerous. I would like to see it changed. Would you?

Yeah, I'm with ya. I think someone said, "is it Constutitional or not?" Well, I see it this way, if we die as a society, the Constitution will not matter one iota. The Constitution (The Magna Carta, etc.) in such a case will not even be worth an empty beer can. I was discussing this with a co-worker of mine and he made an excellent point where we need to be like the Islamists in a few ways, not like them to where they just kill but we need to be fanatical with our desire to survive as a civilization. I think where some libertarians miss the point is where they believe in the self too much and fail to see the needs for the well being of society with its complex social and support systems we depend on. I think we need to have some sort of middle ground between the individual and society, somehow we need to determine a healthy mix for both to survive and thrive as well as perserve our Civilization.

I know about mattiage, kids and all of that, I've posted a lot on that. Well, I decided to leave it to this where I will ask God for His help in guiding me to "Miss Right" or her to me. With His guidance, I have got a better job recently.

Looking back at my family history, I asked my 90 year old grandmother about some of her family and her mother had two brothers that came over. Her mother and uncles were Russian Jews. One became a union organizer for the coal mines in Pennsylvania/West Virginia and the other one was violinist who was adopted by a Jewish family in New York City. He became semi-famous and one time was charged with bigamy but was acquitted but he lost his wife over it. Some years passed, he got his life together, was well to do, and when he 45 or 50 (back in the 1930's), the story she told me was where he married a young girl, 16 to 20 years old (my grandmother is not sure), had some children and just lived a quiet life. I know the Jewish community then was very tightly organized and many times whole families would help each other hitch up single people, David Sarnoff, who founded RCA and NBC, got his wife through similar means. Well, the metaphor is that if someone like my great uncle above and more contemporary, Bill O'Reilly (he's in his 50's and has small children IIRC), then there is hope for me. B-) I'm looking for more info to verify parts of the story, especially the time he was a semi-famous violinist.

We need to re-learn the cohesion we had as a society and dump all this political correctness as well as turn to God more, otherwise our survival will be compromised in the long run.

BTW, I still enjoy those Victorian links you sent me. B-)