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To: kcvl

"Since they admitted to raping her your "theory" is stupid."

They didnt admit to raping her. They admitted to having sex with her. SAying she was in and out isn't rape if she was wanting a threesome and took drugs on her own.
YOu make a LEAP like you just did and you call ME STUPID?

Best check yourself there!


"Sure, why not blame the VICTIM of MURDER!"

I blame her for going off with three strangers in a foreign country. Not for her muder. Two very different things that you obviously cannot distinguish.
Yeah but IM stupid LMAO OK.


"No matter what the hell she did or didn't do (and knowing her and her family I highly doubt that she willing went anywhere with three grown men by herself) and she certainly didn't deserve to be MURDERED!"

Ok lets eaxmine this statement.... NO MATTER WHAT SHE DID OR DIDN'T DO....HA you remove ALL personal responsibility with that statement....better rethink that one.....
I agree she didn't deserve to be murdered and I never said she did..you make senseless accusations there.
I do not care if you know her or not...she was NOT abducted from INSIDE anywhere...she went off by herself with strangers...this fact you cannot dispute.


"Natalee was NOT trash as the Aruban government wants people to think. She was a decent and lovable girl who was looking forward to college.

Going off with three strangers (OR EVEN ONE) doesn't make you TRASH..it only makes you a poor decision maker. That is all I said and all I assigned blame about.


"She was a decent and lovable girl who was looking forward to college"

At that age MANY are naive about the dangers of the real world MUCH LESS those in a foreign nation. Nothing I have said disputes that statement.

The family should not go away, answers need to come. After this post I hope you are prepared for them when they do.

To absolve natalie of her own actions is to live in OZ.
To claim Natalie was an innocent barbie that made NO MISTAKES in judgment or action is like saying that the kalpo boys and joran are totally innocent and nothing more than ken dolls that made a mistake. BOTH are improper statements to make.

Natalie was in a foreign country BY HERSELF. SHE alone is responsible for that(UNLESS her fiends ditched her on purpose) or ( UNLESS these boys abducted her against her will). Knowing these folks as you say you do, can you provide evidence towards the merit of either of those two?
You can say you DOUBT it all you want to......college girls go off with guys everyday...you think natalie is a lone exception? CMON NOW.

Natalie is most likely dead, and YES that is partly due to her own choices. ( there again, unless you can prove that these boys conspired to kidnap her against her will.....which is something I do not think you can do.)


37 posted on 11/08/2005 10:43:18 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression
They didnt admit to raping her. They admitted to having sex with her. SAying she was in and out isn't rape if she was wanting a threesome and took drugs on her own.

You are really in la la land. You actually think she took drugs on her own, wanted a threesome with these 3 thugs, and sex was consensual?

You are stuck on stupid.

38 posted on 11/08/2005 10:46:34 AM PST by Chuck54 (Free Tom DeLay)
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To: BlueStateDepression
she went off by herself with strangers...this fact you cannot dispute.

I don't have to. Her mother and her family have already proved it to the Aruban government more than once. You don't know what you are talking about as I have already said. It doesn't matter what YOU THINK.

BTW, what do you call three men having sex with someone who can't say no? I call it rape!

53 posted on 11/08/2005 11:05:34 AM PST by kcvl
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To: BlueStateDepression
Just for you:


58 posted on 11/08/2005 11:13:29 AM PST by demkicker (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: BlueStateDepression
Where have you heard or read that Natalee went off with these three men voluntarily? Maybe you have insider information that the general public is not privy to.
On the interrogation tape of Joran van der Sloot, he admits drugging her against her will and having sex with her. No one was even charged with this crime.
This was a "nice" girl not inclined to sleeping around. She was raised in a sheltered environment and trusted other people too easily. Twenty years ago that could have been me. I had never been exposed to the filth prevalent everywhere. When I moved out into the world after college, I had to learn to be very careful and not trust anyone until they had proved themselves trustworthy. Natalee never had a chance to learn this lesson. NO ONE knows exactly what really happened except the parties involved. How can you say how she acted? Your speculations are just that, speculations. If this had been your daughter, you would do everything possible to find her.
96 posted on 11/08/2005 12:23:10 PM PST by JCISLORD (Jesus Is Lord)
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To: BlueStateDepression

Are you also the sort of person who would place blame on a rape victim because she happened to be wearing a short skirt and sexy blouse when she was brutally attacked? Or maybe blame ole granny when she went out for her birthday dinner celebration, got a little tipsy, and was raped and/or murdered on her way home?


252 posted on 11/08/2005 6:23:49 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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