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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
The issue is not whether Darwinian Evolution is "true", or scientifically accurate. University professors such as "Right Wing Professor" and the UC Administrators want to make sure that NO SCHOOL IN AMERICA dares teach anything that contradicts their dogma.

Oh good, more libel from a Christian. By their fruits ye shall know them.

I fully support your right to teach your unfortunate kids whatever loony origin story you wish. However, I have not only the right, but the duty, to evaluate academic credentials when they pertain to my subject area. A course which teaches scientifically false material - for example, that the earth is of the order of thousands of yours old - is not a valid science course.

My daughter is well versed in the sciences, she tutors Math and English, and she also knows what she believes, and why she believes it. She can articulate her objections to Darwinian evolution because she has studied it. She has a good, classical "liberal" education, because she attended the private schools (seven different schools in 12 years) that she has. But that is not good enough for the UC or RWP. Her SAT scores and stelar accomplisments mean nothing.

Seven schools in twelve years. Why did you do that?

SAT scores are only part of university admissions credentials.

RWP is so far "right wing" that his position on religious people is hard to distinguish from that of Hitler's. He certainly has never absorbed the U.S. Constitution, or the First Amendment. (Hint: It was written to protect my daughter from creeps like the secular left, not to empower them in persecuting Christians.")

(1) Godwin's law invoked

(2) Please identify two or three figures in the secular left in 1789, and some documentation of the claim that the First Amendment was formulated to protect us from them.

138 posted on 11/21/2005 1:01:30 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor; Admin Moderator
Oh good, more libel from a Christian. By their fruits ye shall know them.

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Yep.. I can recognize a Machiavellian "big lie" liberal a mile a way. "Right wing" you are not. Poser..you are. You've been bashing away in here at everyone and everything long before I addressed your post(s).

I fully support your right to teach your unfortunate kids whatever loony origin story you wish. However, I have not only the right, but the duty ...

... to stand at the entrance of the school and keep out the "wrong kind" of people. Is your clan membership up to date? Racial bigotry or Intellectual bigotry, the results are the same. You're trying to justify your evil with shallow pseudo-academic arguments.

A course which teaches scientifically false material - for example, that the earth is of the order of thousands of yours old - is not a valid science course.

And if my daughter attends a course that teaches both evolution, and also points out problems with Darwinian theory (Second law of Thermodynamics, or non-reproducability), based in part upon her religion, you support the UC policy, and maintain that she should be excluded from the UC system. Again, keep those white sheets and hoods available (or the brown shirts and jack boots, if you prefer).

Seven schools in twelve years. Why did you do that?

Work. United States Navy, and later consulting work. I fought to preserve your right to discriminate against my daughter, and to prevert the U.S. Constitution into something it never was. Enjoy!

SAT scores are only part of university admissions credentials.

A fact that I recognize, and which is entirely beside the point, when the UC has set a policy which excludes Christian students regardless of their accomplishments. It's also a rather convenient, because once objectivity has been eliminated from the Admissions process, good folks like you can subjectively establish rules to "legitimately" exclude any minority.

(1) Godwin's law invoked

God's Law invoked. "Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God." Mark 10:14 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Matthew 18:6

You don't have to believe it for it to be true. God help you if I'm right and you're wrong.

(2) Please identify two or three figures in the secular left in 1789, and some documentation of the claim that the First Amendment was formulated to protect us from them.

No. If I want to argue Constitutional law with a honest leftist Democrat, I can find them on another web site. They too, want to bar Conservatives and particularly Christians from the University campus.

You previously reported another FReeper to the Admin moderator because you felt "threatened". Why do you think folks here are getting upset with you? Evolutionists have come and gone. You'll be dust soon also. No one on this forum really cares much what you think about evolution or intelligent design. However, as I said during one of my first posts, this issue directly impacts my daughter's civil and Constitutional rights. It's going to her hurt, and not only do you not give a damn, you are really quite gleeful at her situation. You are happy the UC has taken this position. And then you cry because someone has taken offense, that someone might even have a violent thought towards you?

You obviously have no children of your own, or no common sense. Certainly, you have no sense of common decency.

SFS

142 posted on 11/21/2005 2:58:33 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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