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To: Stayfree

"GO FOR THE THROAT, WE MUST START FIGHTING LIBERALISM AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT IS RIGHT...THINK ABOUT WHAT LIBERALISM HAS BROUGHT US SERIOUSLY!!"


I don't know the specific so maybe there is someanti-Christian bias at work in this particular case.

But in general - science is not liberalism and Christian schools should meet the same academic standards as other schools.


4 posted on 11/20/2005 12:02:42 AM PST by gondramB
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To: gondramB
But in general - science is not liberalism and Christian schools should meet the same academic standards as other schools.

Agreed the Creationism/Intelligence Design mythology is damaging the academic credibility of otherwise excellent Christian schools.

8 posted on 11/20/2005 12:05:49 AM PST by Maynerd
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To: gondramB

"But in general - science is not liberalism and Christian schools should meet the same academic standards as other schools."

"Most of the nation’s hundreds of Christian colleges, with their rigorous academic standards, routinely outperform state universities.
Christian home schoolers win the national spelling bees year after year. In a 2003 article entitled God on the Quad, the Boston Globe described how well Christian Evangelical students are doing on New England’s liberal elite university campuses."

Quoted from Rabbi Daniel lapin in this recent post http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1519058/posts


10 posted on 11/20/2005 12:27:26 AM PST by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: gondramB

Do SAT/ACT tests have questions about faith? If you do well on your tests, it shouldn't matter whether you believe in Jesus or Santa Claus. Plus if you do well on your tests, you can pretty much pick your college.

If a college rejects you because of your faith in Jesus, that would be great sign to go to a Christian college.

Maybe, I'm missing the point.

Sincerely


14 posted on 11/20/2005 12:54:58 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: gondramB
But in general - science is not liberalism and Christian schools should meet the same academic standards as other schools.

When the UC system stops giving credit for some of the ethnic studies courses taken by high school students, I will take this kind of argument seriously. Even if the Christian high-school courses have low academic value--and I don't know the answer to that one way or the other--the Univ. is engaging in viewpoint discrimination by giving credit for one second-rate course but denying credit for another.

18 posted on 11/20/2005 1:57:00 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: gondramB
"But in general - science is not liberalism and Christian schools should meet the same academic standards as other schools." - gondramB

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.. OR ELSE!!

Oops.. you forgot the "or else" part. That's what's involved here, a mandatory standard with the UC as the approved reviewer about everything a child knows or thinks. If it becomes the standard of the UC now, it'll be the standard of every major University or College in five years.

You may not be too upset if these foolish, semi-literate Christian fundamentalists who believe in "intelligent design" and will simply not acknowlege the wisdom of their betters, get theirs. It's about time, right?

Well, what about teaching economics from a Marxist perspective? How about US history from a leftist, anti-Western perspective? How about a US history who defines Reagan, Bush, and other conservative Presidents as outlaws? If the UC can use "curriculim" to force secular-humanism down the throat of every child in California, why should they stop there?

Your pro-"evolution is the only science" bias is short sighted.

SFS

20 posted on 11/20/2005 2:35:54 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: gondramB

They have met the same standard.

They had ADDED material of interest to them as a Christian school. They have not SUBTRACTED anything.

Also, please note the article's statement: "Young....With stellar grades, competitive test scores and an impressive list of extracurricular activities."

In other words, he has high SAT and ACT scores. That means that his education was just fine when compared with others.


27 posted on 11/20/2005 3:08:51 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: gondramB

I think some may think science is liberalism.


31 posted on 11/20/2005 3:38:39 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: gondramB
But in general - science is not liberalism and Christian schools should meet the same academic standards as other schools.

Assuming you mean public schools, why would a private school lower itself to the lowest possible common denominator?

Public schools are enthralled by the likes of the NEA, ACLU and other liberal organization who have openly declared war on Christianity. There's nothing different about Christianity in this country in perhaps over 200 years of it's existence, except perhaps a better understanding of what it takes to be a Christian by today's standards.

That being said, the relationship between the state funded school and the private school should not be altered because of a recently tainted view of Christian education.

I will say it plainly. ANY private Christian school is superior to a public school. There should be no issue here, the only existing issue is one of anti-Christian hatred.

38 posted on 11/20/2005 4:04:22 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: gondramB
I remember some time back when there was another thread on this controversy, that part of the criticism was on Abeka curriculum; that it taught Creationism and a "creationist rewrite" of evolution. (I don't remember who made that comment). Abeka's biology curriculum does seem to teach evolution properly. My daughter, who was homeschooled and used Abeka biology, took an old NYS Biology Regents exam, just to see how she would do. Old exams for practice can be bought at any bookstore and are called Barrons. The answer key is in the back of the book.(We had been advised against her actually taking regents exams by a school offical who said that it would not be a fair assessment of her knowledge of the subject material because of the different curriculum used. Apparently, they school system does teach to the test, because although they deny it officially, I have had numerous teachers in private admit to me that they do.) Anyway, when she took the exam and graded herself, the section she scored the highest in was the section dealing with evolution. She got an 88 on that section. SHe is now in 12th grade and attending public school as she graduated from homeschooling in 3 years and was bored. She, along with my 10th grade son, both received a "Christian" homeschool education until this year and now in the public school are now on high honor roll, with overall averages in the upper 90's. This idea that Christian education is somehow inferior to public schools needs to be laid to rest. And BTW, my daughter went to the National Spelling Bee, too, although she did not come close to winning. And 1510 SAT.
135 posted on 11/20/2005 10:15:44 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: gondramB
Christian schools should meet the same academic standards as other schools

Why dumb them down, too?

140 posted on 11/21/2005 2:16:21 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: gondramB

My brother in law works at NIH, he's a scientist reseracher with several advanced degrees and he is a creationist.


185 posted on 11/21/2005 6:38:02 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, not just a suggestion)
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