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To: Phsstpok
God created evolution... To any Darwinist "purists:" please prove me wrong.

I don't know of any evolutionary scientist who would attempt to prove you wrong; Science including evolutionary science cannot even conceptually prove that God had no role in the world, including the setting up of evolution, since Science studies the natural world, and God is by definition supernatural. In fact many scientists agree with you.

508 posted on 12/17/2005 4:43:09 PM PST by MRMEAN (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: MRMEAN
You encapsulate my entire argument with the whole "evolution vs intelligent design" debate. Those who insist that God must not have had any role in evolution (which is the central argument against ID) are confusing mechanics (evolution) with causation (a creator versus random chance).

Random chance is not sufficient to explain random chance. The pot cannot hold itself. That an evolutionary mechanism has been involved in the progress of life on Earth is logically defensible based on the available evidence. Whether there was an intelligence behind that process or not is not even touched on in the slightest. Those who insist otherwise are making an argument based on their faith, whatever it may be. Therefore the issue of a creator should either be completely left out, either pro or con, or both the thought that there is none and the thought that one must be there must be given equal weight in any presentation.

The problem is that the committed Darwinists who so despise ID are trying to insist that evolution "proves" that there is no God. That is not only ridiculous it is patently false.
509 posted on 12/17/2005 5:02:53 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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