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To: Ichneumon
Only a creationist would be so ignorant as to think that gullies in ash are comparable to the kinds of features found in the Grand Canyon

Apparently you are as ignorant about Spirit lake as you are about Hovind. "gullies in ash.." You're either ignorant of your subject or a liar. The vast mudflows in the aftermath of the eruption may have included ash; but, they were hardly 'ashflows' as you would profer in ignorance. Go learn something and come back when you know what you're talking about. Don't waste our time pontificating from ignorance.

952 posted on 12/17/2005 11:53:02 PM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: Havoc
Apparently you are as ignorant about Spirit lake as you are about Hovind. "gullies in ash.." You're either ignorant of your subject or a liar. The vast mudflows in the aftermath of the eruption may have included ash; but, they were hardly 'ashflows' as you would profer in ignorance.

Ah! The irony!

Pyroclastic flows at Mt. St. Helens.

Go learn something and come back when you know what you're talking about. Don't waste our time pontificating from ignorance.

If you aren't Hovind, then he cloned himself or has a twin.

1,035 posted on 12/18/2005 8:20:53 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Havoc; VadeRetro
[Only a creationist would be so ignorant as to think that gullies in ash are comparable to the kinds of features found in the Grand Canyon]

Apparently you are as ignorant about Spirit lake as you are about Hovind.

Nope.

"gullies in ash.." You're either ignorant of your subject or a liar.

Look, son, even the creationist AnswersInGenesis clearly describes the composition of the material the gullies were carved into:

"For erosion, see the 100-foot-deep Engineer’s Canyon on the north fork of the Toutle River (diagram, left), like a model of Grand Canyon. It was carved very quickly by a catastrophic mud flow from a Mt St Helens eruption through earlier pyroclastic deposits."
Pyroclastic deposits are primarily ash and pumice, son.

The vast mudflows in the aftermath of the eruption may have included ash; but, they were hardly 'ashflows' as you would profer in ignorance.

Are you twisting what I actually wrote on purpose through dishonesty, or just because you're a moron who can't read?

I didn't say that the "canyon" was formed by "ashflow" (I never even used that word), I said that they were gullies formed "IN ASH", which indeed they are. Even AnswersInGenesis agrees.

The "canyon" was formed by carving INTO ASH deposits *by* a large mudflow passing over the ash. Try to get it straight before you spout off more ignorant belligerence like:

Go learn something and come back when you know what you're talking about. Don't waste our time pontificating from ignorance.

That advice applies far better to yourself, son.

[Is being an obnoxious know-nothing a *requirement* for being an anti-evolution creationist? It sure seems like it.]

1,109 posted on 12/18/2005 1:39:33 PM PST by Ichneumon
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