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To: pillut48
I don't want to upset you and congratulations on a beautiful girl (I have 3 of my own and one on the way) however your rebuttal is kind of apples to oranges.

Creating wheelchairs, artificial limbs,ect does not destroy a human life. If the IVF practice was to take one egg and implant it and let nature work I would have zero problems with it.

16 posted on 01/03/2006 6:04:32 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: vrwc0915

Creating wheelchairs, artificial limbs,ect does not destroy a human life. If the IVF practice was to take one egg and implant it and let nature work I would have zero problems with it.



I respectfully disagree. IVF is about fertilizing and creating LIFE. What you are saying is like telling someone who goes to Las Vegas with a few dollars that if they play only a single slot machine that the odds are that they will win the jackpot!! And that couldn't be farther from the truth.

Yes, embryos die, but not because they are murdered by the vast majority of patients and doctors involved. They die because of genetic problems, or fragmentation, or whatever...but the doctors and nurses I have worked with have always been highly respectful of human life, because there are no guarantees in this field...and it is so incredibly hard to be successful!! In my own case, the embryos that didn't make it during my 4 IVF procedures were not 'murdered'--they basically fizzled out because they couldn't grow anymore. They DIED on their own, sadly, and I grieved for each and every one of them as if I'd miscarried them. I have many infertile friends who felt the same way. Each and every embryo (and there aren't tons of them by the way, that's a myth created by the MSM, IMO) is PRECIOUS to IFers when they are going through treatment, in all of the cases I've come across over the years.

Wheelchairs, eyeglasses, hearing aids--these things are comparable to IVF treatment, because it is a quality of life issue, which some people don't get...even the Constitution's Preamble speaks to the importance of our 'posterity'--and the fact is, God has given those of us with infertility problems the technology to be helped, just like He's given us the means to helps those who can't walk a way to get around, those who can't hear a means to hear, those who can't see a means to see...I was one of the millions of people praying for Terri Schiavo's life which was deemed unworthy, and yes, there are IF patients who decide their family is done and decide to discard the embryos they didn't use--but you can't paint ALL IF patients who undergo IVF with the same "the kids are evil, the parents are selfish, the doctors are meanies" paintbrush. That's my objection. IF victims just want families, and IVF is maybe a way to achieve the yearning God puts on their hearts.

I feel my blood pressure going up, I need to stop responding here. Hopefully I've let some lurkers who didn't know the truth, that the truth is out there, don't just go by what is posted here.


25 posted on 01/03/2006 6:32:33 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX)
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