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To: Elsie
You choose a church which, in effect, interprets scripture so that it's in conflict with the SPIRITUAL world.

I doubt that God is in conflict with His creation. I also doubt that scripture -- when properly understood -- is in conflict with creation. Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable in a church that claimed such conflicts exist. But that's just me. Unlike others around here, I don't claim to be an authority on God.

457 posted on 02/20/2006 2:14:14 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I doubt that God is in conflict with His creation. I also doubt that scripture -- when properly understood -- is in conflict with creation. Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable in a church that claimed such conflicts exist.
 
I do not disagree with this!
 
 
But I DO believe that 'creation' has been ravaged a bit since it first started:
 

NIV Romans 8:19-24
 19.  The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed.
 20.  For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope
 21.  that  the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
 22.  We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.
 23.  Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
 24.  For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has?

487 posted on 02/20/2006 2:36:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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