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To: Always Right
Sorry, I had to run and my second link did not make it in the post, but it is here.

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You did it again! That link -- oh, wait, I see.

You're quoting from the *thesaurus*, not the dictionary part!!!

And the bit you just quoted from the Thesaurus makes clear that is a *religous* usage only! Since we were talking about science . . . obviously not applicable (and don't give me the 'Evolution is religion' line, cuz that only suggests a total lack of understanding of religion).

Find a dictionary that defines 'affirm' in the way you claim, pleaze. Or else you lose on this one point, I'm afraid.

Quoting definitions from a thesaurus is an interesting tactic. Dishonest, in the extreme.

I might say, rather 'un-Christian' behavior, even . . .

501 posted on 02/20/2006 2:45:00 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr; Always Right

Hey guys... Couldn't help but notice your discussion about oaths and vows. Hope this helps.

Ecc 5:4 When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for [he hath] no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed.

Ecc 5:5 Better [is it] that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.


508 posted on 02/20/2006 2:55:25 PM PST by Jo Nuvark ((Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3))
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To: Dominic Harr
Find a dictionary that defines 'affirm' in the way you claim, pleaze. Or else you lose on this one point, I'm afraid.

Main Entry: af·fir·ma·tion
Pronunciation: "a-f&r-'mA-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : the act of affirming b : something affirmed : a positive assertion
2 : a solemn declaration made under the penalties of perjury by a person who conscientiously declines taking an oath

So the affirmation is the equivalent of an oath for someone who does not believe in God. That is the distinction and why the definition says it is not an oath. Oath implies a belief in God, affirmation does not. An affirmation is an oath for a secular person. Reguardless, it is much more than an assertion.

514 posted on 02/20/2006 2:58:39 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Dominic Harr
Dishonest, in the extreme.

Or at least hyperbolic...

515 posted on 02/20/2006 2:59:18 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Dominic Harr
Dishonest, in the extreme. I might say, rather 'un-Christian' behavior, even . . .

Happens 'round here every day. They twist and turn as much as Clinton ever did. It's amazing they didn't fall for what "is" really "is."
524 posted on 02/20/2006 3:05:37 PM PST by whattajoke
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