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'More tar' in cannabis than cigarettes
Herald Sun ^ | 27 March 2006

Posted on 03/26/2006 3:18:10 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

SMOKING three cannabis joints will cause you to inhale the same amount of toxic chemicals as a whole packet of cigarettes, according to research published in France today.

Cannabis smoke contains seven times more tar and carbon monoxide, the French National Consumers' Institute concluded in research published in the April edition of its monthly magazine.

The institute tested regular Marlboro cigarettes alongside 280 specially rolled joints of cannabis leaves and resin in an artificial smoking machine.

The tests examined the content of the smoke for tar and carbon monoxide, as well as for the toxic chemicals nicotine, benzene and toluene.

"Cannabis smoke contains seven times more tar and carbon monoxide than tobacco smoke," the institute's magazine says.

Someone smoking a joint of cannabis resin rolled with tobacco will inhale twice the amount of benzene and three times as much toluene as if they were smoking a regular cigarette, the study says.

Smokers of pure cannabis leaves will also inhale more of these chemicals than from a normal cigarette, though the amount varies depending on the quantities.

"Smoking three joints every day – which is becoming frequent – makes you run the same risks of cancer or cardio-vascular diseases as smoking a packet of cigarettes," the magazine says.

Cannabis is "by far" the most popular illicit drug in France, it says. The number of cigarette smokers and people drinking alcohol fell in 2005, while the number of cannabis users has increased in France in the past five years.


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Now, what was that line about pot being safer than tobacco? And it screws your brain, too!
1 posted on 03/26/2006 3:18:12 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher
Cool. We should kick down doors and confiscate property illegally while growing federal government to new intrusive levels to combat this plant. Or we could put filters on the marijuana cigarette.



No, let's kick down doors and imprison citizens.
2 posted on 03/26/2006 3:21:09 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Aussie Dasher

Couldn't you avoid those dangers by eating marijuana instead of smoking it?


3 posted on 03/26/2006 3:22:01 PM PST by Sarvana (I'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone equally.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

We need to put better filters on those joints.



4 posted on 03/26/2006 3:22:43 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Or use a bong....


5 posted on 03/26/2006 3:25:03 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Here is an added feature, lots of time after law enforcement sprays it to kill the plants it is harvested and sold, agent orange and all.


6 posted on 03/26/2006 3:25:44 PM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: Sarvana

How about avoiding marijuana instead of smoking it? Reduces all the associated risks to zero.

Abstinence - works every time!


7 posted on 03/26/2006 3:29:44 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Aussie Dasher

Wonder what it would be like to have a government that treated us as adults...


8 posted on 03/26/2006 3:33:19 PM PST by Lexington Green (... and a cavity search for every child.)
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To: Aussie Dasher; mugs99; Know your rights; winston2; Lady Jag; Wolfie; MRMEAN; tpaine

No one has ever proved that the tars in cannabis cause cancer.

No one has ever proved that anyone has ever dies from using cannabis in the history of the world.

A 1997 UCLA School of Medicine study (Volume 155 of the American Journal of Respiratory & Critical Care Medicine) conducted on 243 marijuana smokers over an 8-year period reported the following: "Findings from the long-term study of heavy, habitual marijuana smokers argue against the concept that continuing heavy use of marijuana is a significant risk factor for the development of chronic lung disease." "Neither the continuing nor the intermittent marijuana smokers exhibited any significantly different rates of decline in lung function as compared with those individuals who never smoked marijuana." The study concluded: "No differences were noted between even quite heavy marijuana smoking and nonsmoking of marijuana."

Marijuana does not impair long-term memory. Marijuana does not lead to harder drugs. Marijuana does not cause brain damage, genetic damage, or damage the immune system. Unlike alcohol, marijuana does not kill brain cells or induce violent behavior. Continuous long-term smoking of marijuana can cause bronchitis, but the chance of contracting bronchitis from casual marijuana smoking is minuscule. Respiratory health hazards can be totally eliminated by consuming marijuana via non-smoking methods, i.e., ingesting marijuana via baked foods, tincture, or vaporizer.

http://www.cannabis.com/untoldstory/hemp_9.shtml


9 posted on 03/26/2006 3:34:13 PM PST by Supernatural
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To: Aussie Dasher

My recollection is that one doesn't normally smoke three joints a day. I understand that current varieties are much more potent.

It would be more useful to compare the effects on the typical smoker of one, versus the other.


10 posted on 03/26/2006 3:34:58 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Aussie Dasher

ANNUAL AMERICAN DEATHS CAUSED BY DRUGS

TOBACCO ........................ 400,000
ALCOHOL ........................ 100,000
ALL LEGAL DRUGS ................ 20,000
ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS .............. 15,000
CAFFEINE ....................... 2,000
ASPIRIN ........................ 500
MARIJUANA ...................... 0



Source: United States government...
National Institute on Drug Abuse,
Bureau of Mortality Statistics

Caffeine and aspirin are more deadly than marijuana.

http://www.cannabis.com/untoldstory/hemp_9.shtml


11 posted on 03/26/2006 3:35:32 PM PST by Supernatural
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To: robertpaulsen; Mojave

Here's another pot thread for you fWO(s)D cheerleaders.


12 posted on 03/26/2006 3:37:53 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Aussie Dasher

It's easy to check out this allegation---simply open up the torso of a dead pot smoker and look at his/her lungs. If they are anything like those of a tobacco smoker, they will be black. Saw one set of lungs like that once and it cured me of any idea I might want to try smoking. PS: The guy who had used those lungs died at 42 with lung cancer.


13 posted on 03/26/2006 3:38:24 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
Of course if you use a water bong most of the tar and chemicals are filtered out negating the effects of the increased tar and chemicals found in marijuana and i dont know many people that smoke three joints a day anyway unless they get low grade ditchweed

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14 posted on 03/26/2006 3:40:46 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Smoking three joints in a day would be like drinking a case of beer in a day. I recommend neither.


15 posted on 03/26/2006 3:41:24 PM PST by be-baw
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To: freepatriot32

Read it carefully. They're talking about hash, not plain cannabis.


16 posted on 03/26/2006 3:45:52 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Aussie Dasher

Yes,and i'm sure its mostly pot smokers who are always pushing for a smoke free environment!Hypocrites.


17 posted on 03/26/2006 3:47:35 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Beelzebubba
"My recollection is that one doesn't normally smoke three joints a day."

That is correct. A person with glaucoma would smoke approximately 8-10 joints per day.

18 posted on 03/26/2006 3:50:05 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Aussie Dasher
The number of cigarette smokers and people drinking alcohol fell in 2005...

Maybe they should make them illegal. Get those numbers back up.

19 posted on 03/26/2006 3:54:18 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Aussie Dasher

Here's a thought - why don't we just let adults do whatever they want - as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else?

If I want to come home from a long day's work & get drunk, high, eat candy - or just lay on the couch & watch TV - who's business is it to anyone else?


20 posted on 03/26/2006 3:55:24 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: Beelzebubba

Not enough information in this survey. One joint can be potent enough for 1-6 people depending on the size and potency. Way too much wiggle room for an accurate result.


21 posted on 03/26/2006 3:55:49 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Aussie Dasher
specially rolled joints of cannabis leaves and resin

Pot smokers don't add resin to joints. This study was flawed from the get go.

L

22 posted on 03/26/2006 3:58:00 PM PST by Lurker (I trust in God. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY

Where do you get that idea?


23 posted on 03/26/2006 3:58:23 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: robertpaulsen

BS.


24 posted on 03/26/2006 3:58:58 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Aussie Dasher
Smoking three cannabis joints will cause you to inhale the same amount of toxic chemicals as a whole packet of cigarettes

But it'll get you way higher.

25 posted on 03/26/2006 4:01:32 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: Lurker

They obviously tried to get the highest (ha) results as possible. I can only wonder how big those joints they tested were. Cheech and Chong size, probably.


26 posted on 03/26/2006 4:01:45 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Aussie Dasher
SMOKING three cannabis joints will cause you to inhale the same amount of toxic chemicals as a whole packet of cigarettes, according to research published in France today.

Oh, but dope toxins are good for you. Just ask FR's resident dope fan club.

27 posted on 03/26/2006 4:01:47 PM PST by Mojave
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To: alicewonders
I've been asking the same question for years...and have yet to receive a straight answer.
28 posted on 03/26/2006 4:01:52 PM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
And pot smokers probably absorb far more of the harmful chemicals, too. I've never seen a cigarette smoker hold the smoke in his lungs until his face turned red.
29 posted on 03/26/2006 4:03:06 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: alicewonders
Who do you think you are just barging in here and making sense! That kind of thing isn't tolerated around here.

L

30 posted on 03/26/2006 4:04:08 PM PST by Lurker (I trust in God. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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To: stands2reason
"Researchers seem to have lost interest in one once-promising use of marijuana - to treat glaucoma. They discovered early on that marijuana reduced the intraocular pressure resulting from this potentially blinding disease. However, the treatment never caught on with more than a handful of patients; to keep pressure down, marijuana must be taken every two to four hours, and patients didn’t like being high continuously. Also, many new drugs work well, with minimal side effects."
-- Marijuana as medicine - How strong is the science?, Consumer Reports, May, 1997

"...it’s well known that smoking marijuana can reduce pressure within the eye, a hallmark of the disease. But the drug may also reduce the blood supply to the optic nerve - the last thing a glaucoma sufferer needs - and it doesn’t seem to prevent blindness. Even if marijuana could save eyes, smoking it enough would take extraordinary effort. ‘In order to substantially reduce eye pressure,’ says Dr. Harry Quigley of John Hopkins University’s Wilmer Eye Institute, ‘you’d have to be stoned all the time.’"
-- Can Marijuana be Medicine?, Newsweek, February 3, 1997)

31 posted on 03/26/2006 4:05:35 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Mojave

Strawmen are good for you too.


32 posted on 03/26/2006 4:07:14 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Or use a bong....

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....filled with crushed ice.

33 posted on 03/26/2006 4:08:16 PM PST by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:)
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To: Supernatural
No one has ever proved that anyone has ever dies from using cannabis in the history of the world.

No one has ever died from a black widow spider bite, either. Plenty of people, however, have died from complications caused by a black widow spider bite.

34 posted on 03/26/2006 4:09:00 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: alicewonders
"If I want to come home from a long day's work & get drunk, high, eat candy - or just lay on the couch & watch TV - who's business is it to anyone else?"

Well, alicewonders, it turns out that people don't do that. They're out and about doing drugs, and 1.5 million of them are arrested every year.

35 posted on 03/26/2006 4:09:04 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
I've never seen a cigarette smoker hold the smoke in his lungs until his face turned red.

The marijuana spontaneously cures any side effects form the toxins.

36 posted on 03/26/2006 4:09:22 PM PST by Mojave
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To: robertpaulsen

For now, let's just forget about pot as medicine - I prefer it's use for recreation & relaxation. Why should that be a problem?


37 posted on 03/26/2006 4:11:13 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: randog

And nobody ever dies from speeding. You see, the sudden stops are a different matter.


38 posted on 03/26/2006 4:11:42 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

"The marijuana spontaneously cures any side effects form the toxins".

Either you can't spell or you don't know how to use the spellcheck feature.


39 posted on 03/26/2006 4:11:58 PM PST by Supernatural
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To: robertpaulsen

Ah yes, there will always be those that get out of line & mess it up for the rest of us. Maybe we should just concern ourselves with those people & leave the other non-troublemakers alone?


40 posted on 03/26/2006 4:15:16 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: Supernatural
Either you can't spell or you don't know how to use the spellcheck feature.

Or my pothead opponent is running on empty.

41 posted on 03/26/2006 4:16:54 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
"Oh, but dope toxins are good for you."

Yep. They actually prevent cancer. And people smoking pot drive better, too. And George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew pot and sat around and smoked it (with the slaves they owned).

These lies make Reefer Madness look like a Discovery Channel documentary.

42 posted on 03/26/2006 4:17:34 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Mojave
Oh, your shortcomings are someone else's fault?

Typical liberal argument.
43 posted on 03/26/2006 4:19:15 PM PST by Supernatural
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
"I've never seen a cigarette smoker hold the smoke in his lungs until his face turned red."

And I've never seen a cigarette smoker use a pair of tweezers to smoke a cigarette down to the last molecule (where all the good pot toxins are, of course, concentrated).

44 posted on 03/26/2006 4:21:03 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
And people smoking pot drive better, too.

After the Supreme Court finds that the FAA is unconstitutional, maybe California should require commercial airline pilots to get loaded before taking off.

45 posted on 03/26/2006 4:22:15 PM PST by Mojave
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To: robertpaulsen
And I've never seen a cigarette smoker use a pair of tweezers to smoke a cigarette down to the last molecule

Or save roaches to build a new joint out of.

46 posted on 03/26/2006 4:23:56 PM PST by Mojave
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To: robertpaulsen

I didn't see 8-10 joints underlined there, sport.


47 posted on 03/26/2006 4:24:43 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: alicewonders
"Why should that be a problem?"

If legalizing pot for adults resulted in a doubling of teen use, would you still favor legalization?

48 posted on 03/26/2006 4:25:39 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Aussie Dasher

This study proves further that marijuana should be decriminalized, taxed and regulated.

How is a standard prerolled Marlboro Red cigarette a fair comparison to a unfiltered handrolled marijuana cigarette?

Take 20 full strength Drum hand rolled cigarettes without a filters and then compare it to 20 full strength hand rolled marijuana cigarettes without filters.

If marijuana was regulated and taxed:
1. major tobacco would immediately put their decades of growing experience to use to create commercially viable low thc low tar variants of cannabis.
2. major tobacco companies would create new filters specifically for marijuana cigarettes.
3. Tar levels would substantially decrease as a result, and tobacco/marijuana blends would become more popular in the States, similar to street usage in Europe/Japan.


(this post was made out of nostalgia for the old FR WOD threads)


49 posted on 03/26/2006 4:25:46 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
How is a standard prerolled Marlboro Red cigarette a fair comparison to a unfiltered handrolled marijuana cigarette?

Dopers would use filters?

50 posted on 03/26/2006 4:27:16 PM PST by Mojave
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