Posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
So what you are saying is that when Darwin was the only scientist that believed in Darwinism that made him WRONG??
But when more scientists agreed with him, that made him right.
If I live to be 110 years of age, I will never understand the evo "logic."
"Also how many of them are just getting the degree to reach the real goal=$$. Some people will put more money at the top of all priorities and their choices become corrupted by it."
I think you're on to something, Running Wolf.
For instance:
The purpose of the "Understanding Evolution" website is to instruct teachers in how they should teach evolution, and the federal government (through the National Science Foundation) came up with $450,000 for the project.
snippet from: http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/west200404010900.asp
I do know that a lot of good people believe in evolution. However, I don't, because there simply is no proof, only guesses.
Dear hosepipe, thank you ever so much for these treasures from Chesterton! I especially like the one above.
This “it is his head that splits” business gets me to thinking about a citation by Eric Voegelin [in “The German University and German Society,” The Collected Works of Eric Voegelin, Vol.12, 1990] of Elias Canetti’s novel Auto da fé. Voegelin writes, “The titles for the three parts of the novel summarize the phases of estrangement: A Head Without a World — Headless Word — The World in One’s Head.”
Well, I don’t read Italian, and the book is out of print. So I haven’t read it. Still I gather the “estrangement” that Voegelin speaks of here is estrangement from Spirit. Which begins with a rejection of reality “as it is.” One then becomes “alienated” from it, you see. And then the fun really starts.
BTW. For whatever interest in our own time this might have for the few, the ancient Greeks had a definite point of view regarding such matters. For instance Heraclitus. (Somehow or other, I think you and he would get along famously, hp, were you ever to meet.) Heraclitus famously declared “the Logos is one and common.” By which I imagine he meant: There is only one Truth, which ultimately governs everything.
Yet he continued the thought (paraphrasing from memory): Though there is only the one Logos, which is thus common to all men — that is, only one truth prevails over all that there is — yet some men act as if they were unaware of this central fact of Reality, and had become like “men asleep,” turning away from the reality external to themselves which encompasses them, into their own “private worlds,” as if dreamers, asleep.
Of such men, Heralitus said: These are no longer public men. Translation: If you want to be a “public man,” you have to lose the private “dream-walking.” Heraclitus’ contemporaries would have understood this stricture as indicating: (1) the “private man” no longer has a right to have a “public voice.” He cannot speak to what is in the common interest of all men. And (2), If the “private man” starts acting like a “public man” — that is, speaks publicly about matters pertaining to the alleged well-being of the public — then the best thing for the “public men” to do is just ignore him.
We hardly ever take Heraclitus’ advice on this. We listen to every nutcase that comes down the pike.
Voegelin’s remarks regarding Canetti take place in the context of an explication of Second Reality, a term coined by Robert Musil (or maybe Heimito von Doderer?) that refers to any systematic mental construction premised on “ending history,” “killing God,” the total rejection of the idea of a unified, lawful, dynamic, and hierarchically ordered cosmos that expresses the form of God – Man – World – Society, and the embrace of the idea that human beings are infinitely perfectible, and that a glorious human future, a perfect Utopia, will issue when all the rest of us embrace the bright ideas of the dreamers of second realities.
What a world we live in! Don’t take any wooden nickels, my friend!
Thanks so much for writing hosepipe!
SO true.. (you got to keep it simple stupid)K.I.S.S....
When I was twenty I was the smartest man I knew of(almost like an Evo).. but have grown progressivly more stupid over the years.. to the point, today, I'm a mere spectre of the man I thought I was.. The spirit of a fact is more reasonable to me today than the actual fact.. "Facts" have lied to me horribly over the years.. but they "seem" to be so true..
I have come to believe that the one in which the "fact" resides is far more important than the "fact" he has consumed.. So I consume facts, digest them, process them, and dump them, wiping ever so carefully.. Factual papers are an aid in this..
Ever so often I throw facts around but that could stop, its so primate like.. and a bit humiliating.. when I notice what I'm doing..
You know; there has to be a better way of digesting facts the human way is so dirty.. The Book of Worms has a way.. some variation of that would be acceptable..
When was the last time God broke in on the nightly news to tell us all how much He disapproves of murder and adultery?
Below is the accepted definition of evolution
In the life sciences, evolution is a change in the traits of living organisms over generations, including the emergence of new species. Since the development of modern genetics in the 1940s, evolution has been defined more specifically as a change in the frequency of alleles in a population from one generation to the next.In other fields evolution is used more generally to refer to any process of change over time.
The most compelling evidence of evolution is that of 6.7 billion people on earth no two are exactly the same. None have been found to be exact clones but are different ,no matter how small. If evolution did not occur the earth would be covered with clones. We are changed by reproduction and nature. Evolution is a fact and observed by most.
Thank you for the Scriptures!
No doubt, grey_whiskers! Thanks for the chuckle.
Yet he continued the thought (paraphrasing from memory): Though there is only the one Logos, which is thus common to all men — that is, only one truth prevails over all that there is — yet some men act as if they were unaware of this central fact of Reality, and had become like “men asleep,” turning away from the reality external to themselves which encompasses them, into their own “private worlds,” as if dreamers, asleep.
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