Posted on 04/30/2006 8:31:10 AM PDT by SheLion
How true and very well said!!!
Thanks so much for all of your support. It does get sickening after awhile, doesn't it? ugh!
If you recongize it as a potential hazard, why expose them besides selfishness?
You are new here so I'll forgive you. It generally considered bad form to refer to someone in a post without pinging them to it.
You're a sweetie pie!!!!!
Thanks for looking out for us.
ROFLMSS........how big of you.
When all is lost pull out the "I've been here longer than you" card........you sound just like the children you claim are being abused.
Newbie, haha. Any bad rap I get from you is a compliment. And I'll do as I see fit. You ought to know all about bad form. And when I had anything to say to YOU, you were informed.
"If you recongize it as a potential hazard, why expose them besides selfishness?"
Can't you come up with anything better than that?
You're like a broken record. If anyone's selfish here, it's you, wanting to dictate what everyone should do in their own home. Maybe you shouldn't drink in your home, ever think of that? (Or drive drunk; where's your outrage on that?)
It sure isn't any better than tobacco. I have never heard of a man beating his wife and kids because he smoked one too many cigarettes. But, I don't tell anyone how they should live their lives. I don't care who drinks or smokes, and who doesn't. I'll leave that to you.
Why take them anywhere in a car? That is a hazard! Don't let them ever have a bicycle! That's a hazard! Sweet Jesus, don't let them cross the street! Kids get run over out there! Put little Johnny or Suzie in their stasis coccoon until they reach majority with nary a scrape or briuse and then dump them into the real world to cower and whine.
Life is fraught with hazards, great and small.
You percieve a microgram per cubic furlong of cigarette smoke as a death sentence. I think that is nuts.
The child crawling around on new carpet is inhaling far worse from the carpet than the cigarette smoke up near the ceiling, but if the child has a medical problem and has ever been within a hundred feet of a lit cigarette, what gets blamed? Cigarettes. Such is the nature of the medical industry.
If these things were so damned deadly, then why does the government not just ban them?
Isn't that remiss on their part?
Or is this a control and revenue issue? Revenue from taxes,revenue from the smoker who lights up two feet inside some imaginary line, revenue from the social serpent budget and all the programs to take children away, revenue for posters and stupid billboards (which are enough to drive you to drink), revenue for dozens of projects stolen from smokers under the onus of paying for their future and past health care costs, and pissed away on pork barrel projects, 5 color tin signs, and public works projects (like golf courses).
Risk assessment. There are far more dangerous things in life than the occasional whiff of smoke.
As for selfishness, if you weren't so selfish (along with the other 79.99999999999% of the population) you would not be trying to impose your risk assessment on smokers for the purpose of feeling smug, 'superior' or safe. You would do your thing in your space and leave us alone in ours. You would refrain from even intimation of some justification to 'intervene' in my family over cigarettes.
All the 'studies' on 'secondhand smoke' were done using computer models. No real-world data.
Kindly do not impose on my very real private life with your d@mn fictitious model.
Raise your children your way and keep your socialist nose the hell out of my family and my home.
Subjecting a child to a room full of smoke so that the parent isn't inconvenienced is equivalent to a child riding a bike?
Only the logic of an addict can make that equivalence.
For starters, there are definite and verifiable statistics on children killed and injured in bicycle accidents.
There are none for secondhand smoke.
zero
zip
nada.
Second, you bray about a "room full of smoke" as if there were so much smoke that one could not see across the room at any level. As I have pointed out to you, that does not even happen in most house fires.
Only the logic of an addict can make that equivalence.
Stuff your addict card where the sun won't shine. You are out of logical arguments. You are a fanatic. You seem to think your perceptions somehow give you the right to interfere to the point where you even consider taking children away from their parents--not over beatings, starvation, locking children away in rooms for a decade, or any of the even more heinous abuses foisted upon children, but because mom and/or dad smoke cigarettes?
How dare you even compare a little "secondhand smoke" with those forms of very real child abuse?
You want addicts and abuse, check out crack babies, don't piss around trying to elevate a whiff of tobacco smoke to the status of unthinkable evil when there is real abuse out there. Or is it just easier for you fanatics to create a problem you can solve than deal with the very real problems out there?
How dare you lump loving parents in with those monsters--over a cigarette?
Or is this because it is easier for the social workers to hound smokers in the burbs than deal with real child abusers in neighborhoods they are afraid to enter in the daytime?
I would postulate that you are part of what is wrong with America today, ignore real problems elsewhere and create tempests in teapots (oh, and then ask 'nanny' to spend all our money 'solving' them).
Here it is: If cigarettes are as evil as you make them out to be, ban them. Quit f*cking around, and get it done in one fell swoop. Then the state treasuries which are so 'addicted' to the tax revenue can go cold turkey with the rest of us, the sun will shine brightly, all the little birdies will sing day and night, and the world will be a perfect and wonderful place.
Then y'all fanatics can sit around getting sloshed on Merlot and tell stories about how you saved the world.
Just don't run over any kids on bicycles on the way home.
Hi again. I know I'm not very popular here but I actually agree with Joe. I don't think anyone has a right to say what a person can do in their own home. As long as it's legal. And smoking is not illegal. Neither is the Merlot, thank goodness!
I'm new to posting on freerepublic. I will be here to talk about a lot of conservative/Republican issues for a long time.
In the short run, I need your help. There are thousands of disenfranchised cigarette smokers who need to know that voting for liberal Democrats is how they got into this mess.
I'm on:
http://www.smokinglobby.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1091
Help me to convert some misguided American citizens.
I'm new to posting on freerepublic. I will be here to talk about a lot of conservative/Republican issues for a long time.
In the short run, I need your help. There are thousands of disenfranchised cigarette smokers who need to know that voting for liberal Democrats is how they got into this mess.
I'm on:
http://www.smokinglobby.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1091
Help me to convert some misguided American citizens.
Sorry, I'll figure the mechanics of posting on this site out by winter. That's the last time I post the same reply twice.
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