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So You Really Think Soccer Blows?
9. June 2006 | 1rudethug

Posted on 06/09/2006 8:56:48 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

So you Think Soccer Sucks?

Fine. I am honestly surprised that you could find the energy to type it, or its equivalent. I am not surprised that you are probably the same person complaining that soccer is being “rammed down your throat,” or other such nonsense.

Do you realize how silly you sound? In what sort of universe can a professional sport, any professional sport, be forced upon anyone? Just turn off the sports media. That enough should be understandable to every member of this website, even the re-treads, trolls, disruptors, and shills.

But we need to get a few things straight. Above all else, your team is playing in the largest tournament on the face of our planet. That’s right, your team. Your other teams, be they named Penske, Padres, or Packers, do not perform on such a stage. A Packer fan may tell a Bear fan that his team sucks. The Bear fan will reply in kind. Such is the nature of rivalry. But try and explain to me that soccer is a wussy sport when I see the following:

Mexican fan: Your team sucks.
U.S.A. fan: Soccer is ghey.

Oh yeah, that’s real testosterone on display. Chicks dig a competitor.

If you cannot bring yourself to cheer for or even defend your own country, then how about shutting the heck up. If you cannot bring yourself to shut the heck up, then walk into a stadium full of English, German, or Dutch fans, stand up, and shout the same out loud. But please try those fans first. Other countries’ fans may mistakenly deliver you to a painless death. Drink a beer or two if it makes you brave. Remember that there will always be someone braver than you.

I don’t want to hear about how soccer is a “socialist” sport. It’s insulting. To your intelligence. I don’t care to talk about restrictor-plates, revenue-sharing, anti-trust exemptions, or the Fair Catch Rule, whose very name suggests wine spritzers and flower arrangements. Please understand this is not about the superiority of one sport over another. This is about rising to the pinnacle of a sport that gives every country in the world the opportunity to qualify. It’s a sport. It has a ball. It's about being the best. What more do you need?

Americans love to fight - traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble player; the fastest runner; the big league ball players; the toughest boxers. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win - all the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.1

I don’t want to hear that the rules are lame. You don’t know the rules. You all but admitted you don’t watch, so how can you? Injury time, the calculation of which was always the source of debate, is now announced at the sideline as the half is ending. It’s been that way for years. Please try and keep up.

Players take dives. Live with it. It happens in every contact sport. Sometimes a player takes a dive in order to give himself or his teammates a rest. You would also if you just spent the last forty minutes and incalculable miles alternating between a run and a sprint.

Your team needs you. Your country needs you. The next couple weeks will not be easy and will only become harder, and the stakes higher, as time goes on. Sure, I think Landon Donavan is a priss, DaMarcus Beasley is over-rated, and Claudio Reyna is too old. It matters not. I do not expect you to start drinking at 5AM. I do not expect you to march down Main Street with the Stars & Stripes. I do not expect four Chicago cops in riot-gear come to the apartment (my personal best). But I expect you to get behind your team or get out of my way.

Thanks for letting me “share.” Thanks for letting me “emote.” Chuckle if you wish. Just remember that somewhere (not necessarily in Germany) someone in American gear is drinking and dancing with a hot Brazilian, or Swedish, or Australian chick and you are not.

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1George S. Patton, Speech to the Third Army, 1944.


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Please read the following selection from Bill Buford's excellent book and ask yourself if something, anything, strikes a chord:
No one realized what had occurred--the police had left so rapidly--but once it became apparent, the supporters started chasing after them. They threw bricks and bottles at their backs. But none of them hit their target. The police were gone; they had retreated; they had disappeared.

A chant broke out--the first that afternoon--and it grew louder as more supporters appeared, entering the square from the various side streets that fed it.

England.
England.
England.
England.

There were more people.

England.
England.
England.
England.

Now that I could take it in, the crowd was larger than I had expected, not the four thousand who had begun the march, but still one of considerable size--more than a thousand. They were appearing from all directions; they had all taken up this chant. They were celebrating; the national side had won [the skirmish with the police].

I remained leaning against the wall, and remember saying aloud: My, my, my.

Many things fell into place. This chant: it was the only one I had heard in a day otherwise characterized by its enforced, sullen silence. And now: this declaration for England. It was such a simple but enormous thought: these fools, despised at home, ridiculed in the press, incapable of being contained by any act of impulsive legislation that the government had devised, wanted an England to defend. They didn't want Europe; they didn't understand Europe and didn't want to. They wanted a war. They wanted a nation to belong to and to fight for, even if the fight was this absurd piece of street theater with the local Italian police.

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Among the Thugs. New York: W.W. Norton & Co., 1991, p. 300-1.
1 posted on 06/09/2006 8:56:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
In what sort of universe can a professional sport, any professional sport, be forced upon anyone?

Much the same way as Mom and Dad put a plate of spaghetti-o's in fron t of a 3-year old who doesn't like 'em, never has, and never will, but they say "You like SPaghetti-o's. You always liked them. Now eat up!" Sure they can change the channel. They just don;t like being told they enjoy a sport that they don't like.

2 posted on 06/09/2006 9:01:05 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: 1rudeboy

I hate soccer.


3 posted on 06/09/2006 9:01:16 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: theDentist

Who the hell is telling you that you enjoy something you don't like? Are you on some sort of medication for that condition?


4 posted on 06/09/2006 9:03:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: trisham

Then this thread's for you, friend.


5 posted on 06/09/2006 9:03:49 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Soccer is a good sport.

For Europeans. And girls.

6 posted on 06/09/2006 9:07:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

I refer to to my section concerning the exchange between the Mexican and American.


7 posted on 06/09/2006 9:08:54 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
In what sort of universe can a professional sport, any professional sport, be forced upon anyone?


8 posted on 06/09/2006 9:09:28 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

OMG. You got me on that one. LOL.


9 posted on 06/09/2006 9:11:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ClearCase_guy

for children and foreigners.


10 posted on 06/09/2006 9:11:28 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

And folks who can't bring themselves to cheer for the USA.


11 posted on 06/09/2006 9:12:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

S.I., NYT., ESPN., LA Times, Mercury News.... and a few external to the U.S. But hey, I find it as exciting as baseball... (yawn).


12 posted on 06/09/2006 9:14:15 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: 1rudeboy
I refer to to my section concerning the exchange between the Mexican and American.

Believe me, my first instinct was to post that soccer was gay. But then I saw that you'd beaten me to it, so said "European" which is basically the same thing.

13 posted on 06/09/2006 9:14:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: theDentist

By reporting on it? You are delusional.


14 posted on 06/09/2006 9:14:51 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

the USA has my heart and i wish their soccer team the best, i just don't want to have to watch it. i will cheer them on in absentia. i just thank God my kids play basketball and ice hockey. i may have to put baseball below soccer on the sport scale and i KNOW that makes me anti-American ; )


15 posted on 06/09/2006 9:16:16 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Everyone is a hero behind a keyboard. Sorry you were cut from the team as kid. Did you try anything that did not require physical ability instead?


16 posted on 06/09/2006 9:16:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You have no sense of humor. Lighten up Francis.


17 posted on 06/09/2006 9:17:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: xsmommy

That was the point of my little essay. If you do not wish to watch, that's totally fine. No one is forcing you to do so.


18 posted on 06/09/2006 9:17:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

My, you seem awfully tense. Worried for the US team's chances? :-)


19 posted on 06/09/2006 9:18:27 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: 1rudeboy
They didn't want Europe; they didn't understand Europe and didn't want to. They wanted a war. They wanted a nation to belong to and to fight for, even if the fight was this absurd piece of street theater with the local Italian police.

In other words, they’re retarded.

20 posted on 06/09/2006 9:19:04 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: 1rudeboy

why the defensiveness about soccer? can't you just be happy that your big tourney is getting underway and enjoy it without ragging on people that don't enjoy it and find it boring? hell, i do counted cross-stitch and don't hold it against those that find it gay or boring!!! LOL! diff strokes, diff folks as the saying goes.


21 posted on 06/09/2006 9:19:04 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: ClearCase_guy

This is the Smoky Backroom. You must be looking for Linens & Things.


22 posted on 06/09/2006 9:19:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: theDentist

Yup.


23 posted on 06/09/2006 9:19:45 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Someone, somewhere in Britain is making fun of the poofy Yanks who wear silly armor prancing around in the fields.

And someone else is bitchin' that the world is too uncivilized to play the gentlemen's sport of cricket.

Such is sports. I guess this reaction is natural considering the hype and squeals of delight from liberals about an elegant and culturally superior sport because its a big deal in the world.

That's the equivalent of following a movie star's politics because you like the person. After being fed this endless stream, it's only natural to want to hate soccer. Then there are the soccer moms. Backlash is a nasty thing.

Point to ponder: soccer (heck, sports in general) is anathema to liberalism. BOrn of war in ancient China, football is not "elegant" or "gentlemanly". The first soccer ball was the head of a defeated general. It's straight out war. Especially the world cup, where different countries fight one another. The only reason the Communists, multiculti fruits, and EUrinal peon wannabes in America go gaga for it is because its foreign and it pisses us blue collar Americans off. As usual, liberals are all about style not substance. If soccer catches on in flyover country, you'll never hear about soccer again.

The least we can do is judge the game on its merits (it's fun, I missed playing it with my cuz) and cheer for our home boys (Go USA! But don't worry if we don't go all the way. As long as we win the wars and remain moral and free, nothing else matters.).


24 posted on 06/09/2006 9:21:07 AM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: 1rudeboy

so why you raggin on those that aren't interested? your title attracted my interest because i DO happen to think that soccer blows. i am going to post a thread saying, SO YOU THINK XS IS FOR HOMOSEXUALS and then rag on everyone that isn't wild about it! ; ) hope you will post on my thread so i can give you crap too!


25 posted on 06/09/2006 9:21:26 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: 1rudeboy
Soccer got babes :-)


26 posted on 06/09/2006 9:21:54 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: xsmommy

Who is being defensive? Every one comment that I get from the "soccer is ghey" crowd on this thread is one less on the World Cup Live thread . . . leaving the other fans in relative peace. I am being as offensive as I can get (pun intended).


27 posted on 06/09/2006 9:22:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Listen, Gladys, in my experience the people who play soccer enjoy the fact that the sport relies on feet -- that way no one will see that they all throw like girls.


28 posted on 06/09/2006 9:22:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: 1rudeboy

i love a smokey backroom thread : )


29 posted on 06/09/2006 9:24:27 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

Well, the same question can be asked to the other side. Why this endless haranguing over soccer? Not a post goes by without someone saying its gay or it sucks. Reminds me of the old Hamlet line:

Methinks thou protesteth too much.


30 posted on 06/09/2006 9:25:11 AM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: xsmommy

Invite me to one of yours anytime.


31 posted on 06/09/2006 9:25:50 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Killborn

i would never post on/read a soccer thread, but this title intrigued me. i only harangue when invited : )


32 posted on 06/09/2006 9:26:22 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

I'm talking in general. I wonder how many people would feel less defensive or even like soccer if all of this was conducted in a vaccuum instead of being amongst the constant carping by the agenda driven slimeball socialists.


33 posted on 06/09/2006 9:31:08 AM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: 1rudeboy

1. I couldn't care less. Really.

2. If you're disappointed by that, please refer to number 1.


34 posted on 06/09/2006 9:31:35 AM PDT by newgeezer (Repeal all Amendments after XV. Yes, ALL of them. Yes, I mean that one, too.)
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To: newgeezer

Disappointed? LOL


35 posted on 06/09/2006 9:32:47 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Just turn off the sports media.

No need. I watch plenty of ESPN and the WC (and soccer in general) is hardly mentioned. ....thankfully.

36 posted on 06/09/2006 9:34:29 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: 1rudeboy

Soccer is fine for New World Order commie socialists.

Baseball is the summer sport of Americans.


37 posted on 06/09/2006 9:34:37 AM PDT by newgeezer (Repeal all Amendments after XV. Yes, ALL of them. Yes, I mean that one, too.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Let's be honest it is kind of a ladies game isn't it?
38 posted on 06/09/2006 9:34:37 AM PDT by piceapungens
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Hilarious.

Bill Simmons has a great idea for killing the WNBA. Put Isiah Thomas in charge of it.


39 posted on 06/09/2006 9:36:49 AM PDT by bigeasy_70118
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To: 1rudeboy

I dig soccer Rudeboy! I will be watching the World Cup games when I can and totally cheering for the US!!! I dont know all the rules, but I had a Brit boyfriend for the past 6 years (his EPL team is Middlesbrough) and have watched my share of games....its the only sport I will watch on TV besides Tennis or hockey.

Soccer players are HOT. :)


40 posted on 06/09/2006 9:37:24 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: Killborn

It's not unique to soccer though. Every sports thread has somebody come on just to say something stupid and insulting about it. Don't know why, when I see a thread about a sport I don't like I keep scrolling, but there's a major crowd in this world that thinks the world must know which sports they don't like and why (and the why is generally shallow, because of course they don't know enough about the sport to have a good reason to not like it).


41 posted on 06/09/2006 9:37:36 AM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: piceapungens

Yes it certainly is. And I prefer the Swedish ones . . . they are the most fun. Although there was that Argentinian girl in Pasadena in '94. Carmela o Carmelita! [misty-eyed]


42 posted on 06/09/2006 9:39:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You sure are working hard to prove you're a hetero, me thinks thou protests too much.


43 posted on 06/09/2006 9:40:47 AM PDT by piceapungens
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Females are always welcome, and I apologize for the exclusively male perspective of my post. I met the Argentinian girl I mentioned above immediately after her team lost to Romania (I think). She walked into the bar with her friends and everyone applauded. Never seen anything like it.

I'm still happy I was there to console her.

44 posted on 06/09/2006 9:42:36 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Soccer is fine for my 12 year old, good skills development for basketball and something she can do in the fall.

As for professional soccer, it is a socialist game. Never has so much effort been expended to accomplish so little.

schu
45 posted on 06/09/2006 9:44:03 AM PDT by schu
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To: piceapungens

Good one. Best I've seen so far. It actually required thought instead of merely reaction.


46 posted on 06/09/2006 9:44:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: schu

Witness reply #45.


47 posted on 06/09/2006 9:45:00 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

People who "hate" soccer dont understand it. Its fast moving (no stupid timeouts all the time), requires skill and the athletes are ATHLETIC, totally in shape....No lard butt linemen.

I so want Germany to lose. But they wont.

Totally want Poland win next game..does that one start at 3:00?


48 posted on 06/09/2006 9:50:36 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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You sure are working hard to prove you're a hetero, me thinks thou protests too much.

Excellent point.

How's the saying go? "Those who protest the loudest are the most guilty." Or something like that.

Because of soccer and parents who love it, a fair number of Stan Musials, Jackie Robinsons, and Joe DiMaggios will never play baseball. Therefore, I totally despise soccer.

49 posted on 06/09/2006 9:50:57 AM PDT by newgeezer (Repeal all Amendments after XV. Yes, ALL of them. Yes, I mean that one, too.)
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I think what he, and I, mean is the following... People may not like soccer. Fine. You may think it is boring and gay. OK. You don't have to watch it. But the U.S. has a good chance to show its worth in a world wide sport. It wouldn't hurt anyone to just support America. Just be patriotic and support an America team or please be quiet. I personally don't care for many sports. But if the U.S. was invlolved in a world tournament then I would support them, yes, even cricket.


50 posted on 06/09/2006 9:51:28 AM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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