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Mel Gibson's statement on his DUI arrest
GrandForksHerald.com ^ | 7/29/06

Posted on 07/29/2006 1:51:47 PM PDT by LdSentinal

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To: TheCrusader
So who owes whom an apology?

Do you believe that Jews start all the wars in the world.

We may as well find out who is sympathetic to Gibson's racism.

101 posted on 07/29/2006 2:18:21 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: veronica

What's Mel's count of dead Jews just now.

He should apologize for what he said, and that should be the end of it. If Jesse Jackson deserves a pass, so does Mel Gibson.


102 posted on 07/29/2006 2:18:42 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: Mamzelle

Well, maybe not 25%, BUT ALOT. It would actually be interesting to find out. There are alot of us here, I can tell you that.


103 posted on 07/29/2006 2:18:56 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: sinkspur
babydoll22: Wouldn't you be upset if the Jews had crucified one of your best friends?

That has got to be one of the most bizarre posts I've seen on Free Republic . . . ever.

It boggles the mind and beggars the language.

104 posted on 07/29/2006 2:18:58 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: LdSentinal

RE the comments on the thread that none of us are perfect, that's true. I'm willing to think that Mel is an OK guy, perhaps, but the worry is that his comments indicate a side of him that is not too attractive. While I may forgive him for being drunk, but if the guy is an antisemite, that's not really forgivable IMO.


105 posted on 07/29/2006 2:19:22 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: LdSentinal
Being a practical sort of guy, the thing that I don't quite get is that here is someone who has a reputation to protect, knew he was at risk of a relapse, and being easily able to afford other options (call a cab - hire a limo - he could *buy* a limo company every day for the rest of his life and it would be a rounding error in his net worth) still chooses to drive to an event where he would be at risk of drinking, and them attempts drive home drunk.
106 posted on 07/29/2006 2:19:23 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

We are not to judge hearts. We ARE to make discerning, wise judgements about actions.


107 posted on 07/29/2006 2:19:38 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (i thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself.)
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To: dfwgator

Oddly enough the statement of Gibson's does not confirm that what he said was the anti semitic remarks attributed to him. I am making no assumptions about his exact quotes until written verification of the report is supplied by the arresting officers or until Mel admits it himself.

He has in the past made remarks which are very ugly about certain females he has known.( in a 1995 interview he called a female assistant he once had a C***T). But I have never read any anti-Semitic slurs by him. His father, yes, but not Mel Gibson.

Even when his movie the Passion was decried by prominent Jewish leaders Mel did not rant about " Jews causing all the wars or make other anti Jewish remarks" so why now?
It just does not make sense.

If he did make the remarks then by all means an apology is necessary. It would also be helpful if he publicly stated that he does not agree with his father's view about Jews taking over everything from the Federal Reserve Board to the Vatican. He should also receive some kind of community service to work with holocaust survivors and their families. Plus a very big donation to organizations that fight anti semitism would not be remiss.


108 posted on 07/29/2006 2:19:46 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: TSchmereL
No, I am defending someone who has showed that he is Pro Life, Pro Catholic person. I am not so quick to throw people under the bus for a mistake like this.
Who here has not gotten drunk and said or did something he/she should not have? If you said no, I applaud you for constraint.
And if we are in a bible thumping mood, what about He without sin cast the first stone, or is that something that only applies to someone else.
109 posted on 07/29/2006 2:19:50 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
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To: dfwgator

Actually, I thought his statement sounded acceptable.

I'm willing to wait and see.

Totally different than Kennedy's initial statement a few months ago.


110 posted on 07/29/2006 2:20:04 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: chesley
If Jesse Jackson deserves a pass...

But he doesn't.

111 posted on 07/29/2006 2:20:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: redpoll
So, based on hope that he could change, this is excusable. okayyyyyyyy
112 posted on 07/29/2006 2:21:11 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (i thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself.)
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To: Shimmer128

We don't judge a person's ultimate destination or the outcome of their lives. Not judging a person's immediate actions is plain foolish.


113 posted on 07/29/2006 2:21:12 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: encm(ss)
Hate the sin, Love the sinner.

Nowhere to be found in my Bible.

114 posted on 07/29/2006 2:21:45 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: LilyBean

His heart is in the right place?? wow, I see where your values lie.


115 posted on 07/29/2006 2:21:46 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (i thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself.)
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To: Hildy
"I stood up for Gibson to you and a number of my Jewish friends. Now, I'm sorry I did."

I'm not sorry I sided with Gibson's producing of "the Passion". It was historically and Biblically accurate. Gibson endured an incredibly long and vicious assault from numerous Jewish organizations and individuals who worked feverishly to censure his movie under the ridiculous pretense that it would stir up dangerous "anti-semitism". As Pope JPII, a real friend of the Jews said of Gibson's movie: "It is as it was". As for what Mel Gibson said when he was drunk, I could care less. Everyone says things they regret when they have too much to drink, and I believe his apology to be 100% sincere.

But what's really interesting now is that we see the re-emergence of those who hate Gibson crawling out of the woodwork to attack him again, spewing their own hatred as they point a self-righteous, hypocritical finger at Gibson.

116 posted on 07/29/2006 2:21:46 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: Wyoming Cowboy

LOL


117 posted on 07/29/2006 2:22:05 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: jla
I have never seen such deplorable behavior as I see from some attacking Mel Gibson who admits he has been battling alcoholism throughout his life.

If he took a drink, he's not battling alcoholism.

Anyway, nobody gives a damn what he's been battling. If he'd hit and killed somebody, would the victim's family care that he was "battling alcoholism"?

118 posted on 07/29/2006 2:22:05 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Shimmer128

Exactly my point.


119 posted on 07/29/2006 2:22:45 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: sinkspur

That quote is taken out of context. The question was about Hutton Gibson's view of the Catholic faith. It was not about Hutton Gibson's view of Jews. Gibson was remarking that his father had taught him the faith not that his father had taught him about Jewish conspiracies.


120 posted on 07/29/2006 2:22:55 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: capt.P

He didn't call someone a KIKE, he implied Jews are responsible for the what's going on in the world. He's an international celebrity. There are so many people just itching to kill Jews...itching. Every day I become more fearful for my life. You think that's a joke? I was flying an Israeli flag on my patio. Somebody called me a name....I took it down in fear for my family. Did you have famiy members marched into a gas chamber? I did. Until you're in our shoes, you have no right to tell me to "chill out."


121 posted on 07/29/2006 2:23:04 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: TheCrusader

Your argument would have been much more persuasive if you'd used the actual word: "censored".


122 posted on 07/29/2006 2:23:26 PM PDT by AmishDude (Back in the USA!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
And his next sentence was "My dad never told a lie."

So, which is true? That he believes Jews died in concentration camps, or that his dad, who denied the Holocaust ever happened, never told a lie?

123 posted on 07/29/2006 2:23:46 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur

I wonder how many of Gibson's defenders here never turn down the chance to lampoon Teddy the Swimmer?


124 posted on 07/29/2006 2:23:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: veronica

Yes you do! I see that everything is ok if you despise Jews. If he'd have attacked the pope I'll bet they wouldn't be trusting and excusing ole Mel.


125 posted on 07/29/2006 2:24:04 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (i thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself.)
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To: sinkspur
When Gibson makes anti-semitic statements, even under the influence, we can judge him to be anti-semitic.

Didn't his Dad make similar statements in a TV interview a few years ago?

126 posted on 07/29/2006 2:24:18 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Petronski

ARGH! Forgot to follow up that sentence! I'm trying to cook dinner at the same time... My sincere apologies! I had a whole diatribe in mind to follow that comment!

What I meant to type was "So what if he is an anti-semite? Why should we be suprised? He's an ACTOR. His job is to supress his own id and pretend to believably be someone else. We should be shocked that he's successfully hidden that fact? He's an artist (of a sort), and artists are known for the quality of their product. Most of them can get away with being total scumbags in their personal life.

Anyhow, I am SO sorry that I spaced out on making my point, and probably pissed everyone off. Not my intention.


127 posted on 07/29/2006 2:24:23 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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To: Liberty Valance

"Guess he's human after all."

Yes, humans aren't complete without a little jew hatred. /sarc


128 posted on 07/29/2006 2:24:24 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Luke21
This summer has been a tough one for people I know going back to the bottle.

I'm a recovering alcoholic and I was just saying the same thing to my husband.

129 posted on 07/29/2006 2:24:31 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: LdSentinal

It sounds like Gibson has a demon to conquer. It also sounds like he is blaming no one but himself. That seems like the rsponsible thing to do. Since I have watched alcoholism consume people near and dear to me, I hope Gibson can conquer it.


130 posted on 07/29/2006 2:24:37 PM PDT by stevem
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To: babydoll22

We all crucified Christ by being sinners.


131 posted on 07/29/2006 2:24:40 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: veronica

oops, sorry, that was the "universal you" not YOU.
I agree with you. (the individual you)


132 posted on 07/29/2006 2:25:03 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (i thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself.)
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To: encm(ss)
Hate the sin, Love the sinner.

Ughhh...yeah...which ancient tome did you find that nonsense. It's not in the Bible.

Oh wait...I know...it's here:


133 posted on 07/29/2006 2:25:06 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Shimmer128

Of course, nothing that Mel has done is excusable. He deserves his punishment, and the excoriation of the public for his antisemetism. He's going to get to it not just in court, but in the court of public opinion, where the money comes from to see his films.

My point is that I've made a mess of my life, too, and at a time when most men are supposed to know better. I paid a very heavy price for my stupidity and bad behavior. Mel is going to pay, too. I just hope that he reforms. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. It's up to Mel now. As a result, I pity him more than anything else - which is actually one of the most insulting things you can say about another person.


134 posted on 07/29/2006 2:25:18 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: sinkspur
You are so holy and truly inspirational.
Have you ever given any thought of working with the Church? The world could use more upright, honest, and devout folks such as you.
135 posted on 07/29/2006 2:25:44 PM PDT by jla
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

geezzzzzzzz he was what, .12 BAL in a state that .08 is drunk. It wasnt like he was blowing .99.
Why dont one day we do a BAL test in the Senate and House and see who gets to type their name in the High Score line on the Machine.


136 posted on 07/29/2006 2:25:54 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
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To: TheCrusader

Interesting take. Well now I know who you are and what you think and I'll remember to stay away from you. However, you will find alot of other Jew Haters to chat with.


137 posted on 07/29/2006 2:26:30 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

Well, blah blah blah to you, too. Go ahead and get worked up about what every stupid actor says. You'll spend the whole day, every day in a state.


138 posted on 07/29/2006 2:26:33 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: lastchance
I've seen Gibson in a few interviews and thought he was at best a flake, and at worst a serious kook.

What I'm hearing in these Gibson DUI threads is a definite delight. I hear whole rooms full of people smacking their lips over this tidbit...

So "The Passion" really WAS antisemitic, after all!!

The uproar around that movie taught me quite a few things about what was really going on in a lot of people's minds. Now, I guess they're here to say, "I told you so."

139 posted on 07/29/2006 2:26:54 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Petronski

ARGH! Forgot to follow up that sentence! I'm trying to cook dinner at the same time... My sincere apologies! I had a whole diatribe in mind to follow that comment!

What I meant to type was "So what if he is an anti-semite? Why should we be suprised? He's an ACTOR. His job is to supress his own id and pretend to believably be someone else. We should be shocked that he's successfully hidden that fact? He's an artist (of a sort), and artists are known for the quality of their product. Most of them can get away with being total scumbags in their personal life.

Anyhow, I am SO sorry that I spaced out on making my point, and probably pissed everyone off. Not my intention.


140 posted on 07/29/2006 2:27:31 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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To: jla

LOL--


141 posted on 07/29/2006 2:27:41 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: LdSentinal

They will forgive him in time. All the moreso since they are of the same left-leaning Party.


142 posted on 07/29/2006 2:27:54 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Scarlet7
If Mel said derogatory comments about the Jews what would you suggest he do to make amends? Seriously. Take a course in Jewish history somewhere. Overcome his ignorance, which seems to be something he inhereted from his dad. Maybe go live on Kibbutz or in Orthodox community for a while. Make a movie about a great Jew or Jewish cause or historical story. Those are a few ideas that pop to mind.
143 posted on 07/29/2006 2:28:03 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: LdSentinal
Sad.
But some good things.
He admitted he was wrong immediately, didn't try to deny it happened.
He took personal responsibility for his stupidity, no excuses.
He apologized to the law enforcement people that he said stupid things to.

Drunk driving is a really irresponsible thing to do. If someone wants to drink and say stupid things, I guess they can do that.
But when they get behind the wheel of vehicle, they instantly start getting others involved in their stupidity.
I hope Mel and others like him can tame their beast.
144 posted on 07/29/2006 2:28:05 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: ansel12

viscousness of the feelings

Who ARE you??? It's just crazy to call the responses here "vicious" (not viscous!)
viscous |?visk?s| adjective having a thick, sticky consistency between solid and liquid; having a high viscosity : viscous lava.

Vicious is killing or maiming, etc. Vicious is not being suspicious of an espoused (though drunk) Jew hater.
Grow up.


146 posted on 07/29/2006 2:28:51 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (i thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself.)
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To: Hildy

I understand. What would you suggest he do to make amends?


147 posted on 07/29/2006 2:28:52 PM PDT by Scarlet7
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To: TheCrusader

"As for what Mel Gibson said when he was drunk, I could care less. Everyone says things they regret when they have too much to drink, and I believe his apology to be 100% sincere."

Agreed..


148 posted on 07/29/2006 2:28:53 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: Scarlet7

Nothing. WORDS MEAN THINGS. We all know how he really feels. I truly don't think there's anything he can do that won't make it worse.


149 posted on 07/29/2006 2:29:57 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: dfwgator
He's ashamed that his true views came out for everyone to hear.

Alcohol and drugs contaminate what is contained in the heart. I forgive him and hope he gets the help he obviously needs.........

150 posted on 07/29/2006 2:30:04 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Global warming has forced me to buy glacier front property in Alaska....)
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