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U.S. Lags World in Grasp of Genetics and Acceptance of Evolution
Live Science ^ | 08/10/06 | Ker Than

Posted on 08/11/2006 11:54:04 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: Mark Felton
"No coincidence at all." None whatsoever.... :)
21 posted on 08/11/2006 12:12:23 PM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: kawaii

"Anyone who still beleives in evolution should read Coulter's 'Godless'."

Ann is not a scientist, is she? If not, why would I read anything she had to say about evolution. As it happens, I did read "Godless." She does nothing but repeat the same non-scientific stuff we read here every time the subject comes up.


22 posted on 08/11/2006 12:12:33 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: presidio9

That Americans reject evolution is not a concern.

That Americans don't know that all plants and animals have DNA is a bigger concern, but I seriously doubt that claim. It's possible Americans tuned out all discussion of genetics when the obvious fraud of evolution was so adamently pushed on them. But their other statistics appear biased, I bet this one is too.

This article is an obvious hit piece. It dredges up the myth that Christians believed in a flat earth. It falsely claims that scientists don't doubt evolution. It claims major political parties are making anti-evolution part of their platform, which is false. And it tries to minimize evolution doubters as "a small but vocal group of Christians", yet the article admits only 40% of Americans accept evolution.

But even these numbers are high according to recent polls. 77% of Republicans reject evolution of humans from another species. And so do a majority of democrats.


23 posted on 08/11/2006 12:12:47 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Mark Felton
"This is a very defensible argument since it is that belief in God(s) that has been at the foundation of, and the prime motivating force behind the flourishing of civilization, science and technology."

I always chalked it up to the development of agriculture and food surpluses. Thanks for setting me straight.
24 posted on 08/11/2006 12:14:27 PM PDT by ndt
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To: ndt
And Turkey just happens to be the only Muslim country included in the 34-nation survey.
25 posted on 08/11/2006 12:15:57 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Lt_funk

Are you saying because of a poll bioscience companies wont invest in America? I would wager that in the 1970's and early 1980's that America was just as or even more against or questionable of Evolution as now, even though some of the greatest biology discoveries were found here at that time, and many of the greatest discoveries are still taken place here in the USA, darn are whacky views.


26 posted on 08/11/2006 12:16:44 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: presidio9

This article seems to imply that opinions about evolution held by average Americans somehow impact research. They don't.

Kids who develop an interest in science will square it with their religious beliefs one way or another. I doubt that there are a number of potential Nobel prize winners digging ditches today instead of doing gene mapping because of religious issues.

We still seem to have all the scientists we need to remain on the bleeding edge of research.


28 posted on 08/11/2006 12:18:35 PM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: MineralMan

As opposed to the pro-evolution non-science that comes up.

Evolutionists worship the events of the scopes trial the way liberals worship the events of the 'mccarthy' era.

Regardless of whether evolution is true or false, the fact of the matter is a lot of folks seem to enjoy fabricating evidence in favor of it.


29 posted on 08/11/2006 12:19:16 PM PDT by kawaii
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To: ndt

You are right, that is a large part of it, but WHY is it that primarily Christian nations have developed the agriculture technology and processes to create such surpluses.

In times past as we were developing our agricultural abilites we would build churches as the one of the first most important buildings (before government buildings) in farm areas.

The church was at the center of those societies which flourished well ahead of non-Christian socieites.

Most non-Christian nations still can't figure out how to get the agriculture right because they do not have the cultural values necessary, in part. The other is that we are blessed by God.


30 posted on 08/11/2006 12:19:56 PM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: Mr. Mojo
"And Turkey just happens to be the only Muslim country included"

With Turkey being relatively moderate in that category, I suspect you would find a lot of "sensible" people in the remaining counties.
31 posted on 08/11/2006 12:20:05 PM PDT by ndt
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To: ndt

No doubt.


32 posted on 08/11/2006 12:21:06 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: presidio9
Last time I checked Science was suppose to accept proof and fact, not secular religious dogma based on faith and assumption. The correct answer is "We don't know". Not believe our dogma or we will excommunicate you from our Church of Science
33 posted on 08/11/2006 12:21:27 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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To: presidio9
Scott says one thing that will help is to have Catholics and mainstream Protestants speak up about their theologies' acceptance of evolution.

Somehow I find it more pressing to have the 900million "peaceful" muslims denounce the 100million militant terrorist muslism.

34 posted on 08/11/2006 12:21:29 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Brilliant
"The researchers combined data from public surveys on evolution collected from 32 European countries, the United States and Japan between 1985 and 2005."

...combined data from multiple studies over 20 years???? I once tried doing something like that in a stat course and my professor came close to spanking me with a keyboard.

I also can't beleve the average French peasant knows DNA from Beaujolais.

Maybe the "researchers" could explain why such a backward nation as the United States leads the world in science, including biotechnology??? Yet "advanced" nations like Turkey can't even figure out how to feed themselves. This study reeks of a waste of the perfectly good and harmless trees used to publish it.

35 posted on 08/11/2006 12:22:24 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: Lt_funk
This is the kind of thing that's going to cause us to lose market dominance. We ignore science (especially biology related fields) at our peril

Absurd nonsense. We dominate the Life Sciences. All these countries are Socialists to one extent or the other. Does that mean we should become Socialists? Just because a dogma is widely accepted does NOT make it a good idea.

36 posted on 08/11/2006 12:23:29 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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To: kawaii
Anyone who still beleives in evolution should read Coulter's 'Godless'.

Is Ann Coulter a subject expert in the field of biology?

37 posted on 08/11/2006 12:24:49 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: stinkerpot65
That is political correctness. Brand the heretics who do not submit.

Selfish, superstitious, racist, sexist, bigoted, fascist, homophobe...
38 posted on 08/11/2006 12:25:19 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: presidio9

This is silly. It is a bit like decrying that so few people speak Latin. Genetics is a specialized field and evolution contributes only marginally to the science. Where it might matter is that a research might suffer professionally if he didn't hold to the conventional wisdom of those in the department. He might not advance for the same reasons that a conservative in sociology might not advance: he can't get anone to publish because his reputation makes him suspect.


39 posted on 08/11/2006 12:25:47 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: aft_lizard
"Are you saying because of a poll bioscience companies wont invest in America? "

Evolution doesn't materially affect any practical science, but Evo's would have you believe that the sky is falling if we don't all accept evolution. Patrick Henry once posted an article that compared Christians to the Taliban and the article claimed that Christians would turn back the clock on science to the dark ages.

Yet it's evolution that has sent science down wrong turns. It's evolution that had doctors thinking it was ok to remove tonsils and tailbones and thinking that appendices had no function. It's evolution that claimed major portions of DNA were "junk DNA", had no function and were not worth researching.

40 posted on 08/11/2006 12:25:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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