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To: petitfour
More from Goldwater:
"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them . . .

There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being . . .

...I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.' Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?

. . . I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.'"

Agree on all counts.

241 posted on 12/06/2006 7:58:45 AM PST by Wormwood (the happiest sadist)
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To: Wormwood

Whew. That was some fire and brimstone from Sen. Goldwater! And I agree with what he said.


250 posted on 12/06/2006 8:08:32 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Wormwood
Thanks, Wormwood...this is why I'm a conservative (repeating your Goldwater quote):

More from Goldwater:

"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them . . .

There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being . . .

...I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.' Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?

. . . I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.'"

302 posted on 12/06/2006 9:45:54 AM PST by paulat (about)
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To: Wormwood

Was that from the later senile Goldwater? Regardless, he sounds like a typical bitter liberal moral relativist idiot.

Of course, he was always a libertarian whose governing philosophy (except they have never governed) is "No one is gonna' tell me what to do!"


402 posted on 12/06/2006 11:24:33 AM PST by streetpreacher (RUDY/ROMNEY 2008: Supporting Marriage between a man and a woman, then a woman, then a woman...)
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