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The Candidate (Rudy Giuliani in NH)
The American Spectator ^ | 1/29/2007 | Philip Klein

Posted on 01/29/2007 1:36:27 PM PST by Dark Skies

Many skeptics continue to question whether Rudy Giuliani is serious about making a run for the White House, but it was abundantly clear on Saturday that he had come to Manchester for more than the sub-freezing temperatures.

Addressing over 500 activists at the New Hampshire Republican Party's annual meeting as part of a two-day swing through the state, Giuliani sketched the broad outlines of what looks like a presidential run. Sounding at times like a motivational speaker, Giuliani cautioned against cynicism and pessimism in the wake of November's election results and challenges in the ongoing War on Terror. The message especially resonated with the audience in this critical primary state, where the Republican Party just lost control of both chambers of the legislature for the first time since the 1870s.

"The best way we remain safe and we retain our freedom...is remaining on offense, remaining strong and not becoming weak in a time of pressure," Giuliani said in a line that drew the biggest applause from the crowd at the Palace Theater.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: doubletalkexpress; electionpresident; giuliani; giuliani2008; rudy
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To: Bobkk47

no need. she wanted the last word and got it. sorry.


121 posted on 01/29/2007 2:55:12 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: Bobkk47

Just bumping the thread - don't worry about it.


122 posted on 01/29/2007 2:55:18 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: onyx

I think the Culture Warriors sense their control of the Conservative Agenda is rapidly slipping away from them and has been ever since the midterm disaster. The rise of Rudy, McCain and Romney at the expense of the Culture Warrior Wing of the party has them very upset. This is understandable. But isn't acceptable it the truly foul tactics employed by the CW's against Conseravtive traditionalists.. After all they alledge themselves to be the "morality" people.


123 posted on 01/29/2007 2:55:28 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: onyx

What do you want me to do, rewrite it everyday?


124 posted on 01/29/2007 2:55:48 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: My2Cents

SPIFF created it over the weekend, with NO attribution,nuff said.


125 posted on 01/29/2007 2:55:54 PM PST by JimFreedom (let's not let good be the enemy of perfect to our detriment. - Cable225)
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To: Irish Eyes

I have made that article into a word document with a nice portrait of Rudy, I can send it to you but you would have to divulge an e-mail address, just in case you want to spread it around your e-mail 'sphere of influenece'.


126 posted on 01/29/2007 2:58:07 PM PST by JimFreedom (let's not let good be the enemy of perfect to our detriment. - Cable225)
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To: Spiff

One has every right to be suspicious of a table proporting to represent Giuliani's positions on issues put together by someone who opposes Giuliani's likely candidacy, when that table provides no footnotes or references to sources. It smacks of the worst of demogogic politics.


127 posted on 01/29/2007 2:58:22 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: areafiftyone

Thanks for the ping.

I see the kiddies who suffer from COD have already arrived.


128 posted on 01/29/2007 2:58:24 PM PST by AmeriBrit (RUDY - 2008 - RUDY - 2008 - RUDY - 2008 - RUDY - 2008.)
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To: Blackirish

So just how is that Dunty Hunker guy doing in the polls?


129 posted on 01/29/2007 2:58:39 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: tomcorn
I think the Culture Warriors sense their control of the Conservative Agenda is rapidly slipping away from them and has been ever since the midterm disaster.



Also they don't have a varsity player so now there hitching their to Dunker Hunten....who let's face it has as much chance of being POTUS as Custer's Bugler.
130 posted on 01/29/2007 2:59:02 PM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: My GOP

Heck no! Post it on every thread. At least yours is original.


131 posted on 01/29/2007 2:59:06 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: jla

SPAMMING is about all you do here with any success.


132 posted on 01/29/2007 2:59:10 PM PST by JimFreedom (let's not let good be the enemy of perfect to our detriment. - Cable225)
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To: nopardons; NapkinUser; EternalVigilance; dirtboy; TommyDale
It isn't accurate at all; it's your garbage work.

Oh, it's accurate all right. Your only defense, if your capable of such complex thought, is to argue semantics. You might say, as others have, that Giuliani does not support Gay Marriage. It is obvious that he does because, among other things, he vocally opposed the Marriage Amendment, he is a champion of domestic partnership/civil unions for gays, and is a member and support of more than one radical gay group that advocates for gay marriage. He has not come out a directly SAID that he support specifically "gay marriage" because that may lose him some supporters, but it is obvious to anyone who looks at everything else he's said and done where he stands on the issue.

It's just like saying that John McCain supports amnesty for illegal aliens. While John McCain will refuse to call it that, in fact the legislation that he supports does provide amnesty for illegal aliens.

But, even though you might get away with arguing such semantics, there is no question that on every one of the issues listed, except the last three, Giuliani opposes the Republican Party Platform. For example, on the gay marriage issue, the Party Platform supports the Marriage Amendment - Giuliani opposes it. And so on.

The Republican Party Platform should be the yardstick that we use to measure worthy Republican candidates. I'm not even talking about conservative Republican candidates, I'm talking about Republican candidates in general. If they don't support all or nearly all of the platform, then they can hardly lay claim to being a Republican and they are not worthy of Republican support.

You know, you just inspired me. I'm going to update that table with the Democrat Party Platform and demonstrate precisely where Giuliani stands and with whom he stands.

133 posted on 01/29/2007 3:00:08 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: tomcorn

Tradespot has him 200 to 1.


134 posted on 01/29/2007 3:00:13 PM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: UncleDick

Is Ron Paul even running?


135 posted on 01/29/2007 3:00:15 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: Sunsong

Beautiful UTAH greetings Sunsong!


136 posted on 01/29/2007 3:00:17 PM PST by JimFreedom (let's not let good be the enemy of perfect to our detriment. - Cable225)
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To: UncleDick

The source of the reposted chart is.....


137 posted on 01/29/2007 3:00:43 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: Spiff
I'm going to update that table with the Democrat Party Platform

If it's again without attribution, don't waste your time.

138 posted on 01/29/2007 3:01:27 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: Spiff

These guys really hate to be proven wrong! LOL!


139 posted on 01/29/2007 3:03:22 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: nopardons
Well, credit where credit is due....that so called "base" has spent the last 8 years trashing president Bush.

Give credit where it was due. President Bush has spent the last 6 years betraying his base and Congressional Republicans had to suffer for it last year.

140 posted on 01/29/2007 3:03:41 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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