Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative

City Journal ^ | Jan.25, '07 | Steven Malanga

[T.L.Sink]

Personally, I prefer Tancredo although I admire "America's Mayor," and this article sheds some light on Rudy's little known conservative and courageous accomplishments.

[freedomfiter2]

Sodom and Gomorrah.."


It's funny that should come up on a Rudy thread.

[ErnBatavia]

You can't blame conservatives for sticking to their principles just because you have none.

I hope you're not referring to me, bucko....

[freedomdefender]

It wasn't until the GOP added social conservativism to its platform that it becamse a majority party. Before Reagan came along and added pro-life to the party's small-government platform, the GOP was the minority party. Reagan added the social traditionalists - that was a big share of the "Reagan Democrats". The pre-Reagan GOP "leaders" like Ford didn't like broadening the GOP tent to include these folks -- but that's why Ford lost and Reagan won. Now we've got Rudy-fans who want to go back to the Gerald Ford days, the days when the GOP snubbed the social conservatives - and lost.

[Afronaut]

"Rudy - The Media's choice (runner up) to oppose their true favorite, Her Royal Heinous. Too liberal. Swing voters would probably prefer an honest to God (Democrat) liberal homosexual/abortionist vs a pretend Republican liberal. Conservative right-wing will probably stay home." "McCain(e) - The Media's first choice to oppose their true favorite Her Royal Heinous. Corrupt, backstabbing, 1st amendment hating turncoat RINO. Swing voters would probably prefer a real honest to God corrupt, backstabbing Democrat. Conservative right-wing will probably stay home."

Ripped from another poster,,,

[eeevil conservative]

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[airborne]

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[Hambone02]

I want a Reaganite, not a reversion to pre-Reagan Republicanism.

Exactly! I want a Reaganite, not a conservative as defined by a liberal!

[freedomdefender]

Well, I'm against abortion and I'm an atheist, so I don't see how that makes one a religious conservative.

My point exactly. We need a pro-life candidate (because that's the formula that Reagan created - pro-life as well as pro-freedom and pro-small-government). That's the winning formula. It's not about being "religiously conservative"

[PatrickF4]

I am sorry. When the choice is poison R or poison D, I prefer not to drink.

[Afronaut]

"I don't understand this compromising to win, strategy change. We should be a guiding light, standing up for what is right in America. People should be able to look at a conservative and a liberal and immediately see the difference. When you have to argue on degree of conservatism, something is wrong."

Thank You !

[Howlin]

You can't blame conservatives for sticking to their principles just because you have none.

Tommy, you're beginning to get on my nerves posting crap like that.

You seem to be under the impression that you and you alone have principles around here.

We're ALL conservatives here; and frankly, I'm getting sick of seeing some of you all call some of us liberals just because we might not agree with your hardass vision of how things are suppose to be.

This is a conservative web site; and try to remember that we don't march in lockstep here.

[freedomdefender]

What is a conservative, these days? Unelectable.

So Reagan wouldn't win today?

[Species8472]

Giuliani?

McCain?

The lessor of two evils is still evil!

[RebelBanker]

Why can't the RINOs compromise?

They can, they just don't have to. As much as it pains me, I must accept that the vast majority of the voters in this country are NOT conservative. I will support the most conservative candidate I can in any race who has a chance of winning. There are some great conservative candidates out there who I would love to see get elected President, but they have as much chance of winning the office as Barbaro has of winnning a Triple Crown.

Oh, by the way, HONK! ;-)

[narses]

What part of LIBERAL does RG not have?

I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp

[JHBowden]

Quit acting like a victim. If there was a viable social conservative running in this election, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

However, the guy who crushed the mob, cleaned up NYC, and will bring the nation's attention back to 911 happens to be unpalatable on two or three issues ultimately decided by the courts. That's not the worst thing in the world, especially given the House and Senate are still reasonably close, and wiping out Obama or her Thighness could give us at least one chamber back. Bill Brady *is* a social conservative, and Durbin is as wacko as they come.

If Rudy takes Illinois, for example, a Bill Brady could sent Dick Turban, who thinks our troops are Nazis, into retirement.

But the 100%ers don't think like this. They would rather believe there is some conspiracy against them.

[Afronaut]

Some folks find it much easier to throw in the towel. They could care less about conviction. They have no principles to fight for.

It's 01/2006 and they have the white flag waving for Liberals and will not lift a finger for a Conservative.

[RockinRight]

I'm not a Rudy supporter either, but what other choice would we have?

[TommyDale]

That was not addressed to you.

[Melas]

He's a conservative.