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Michael Reagan: The GOP Should Dump Its 'Litmus Test'
Front Page Magazine ^ | Feb 16, 2007 | Mike Reagan, the eldest son of President Ronald Reagan, heard on more than 200 talk radio stations

Posted on 02/16/2007 8:30:44 AM PST by meg88

The GOP Should Dump Its Litmus Test By Michael Reagan FrontPageMagazine.com | February 16, 2007

The philosopher Diogenes is said to have wandered around ancient Greece holding a lantern and seeking to find an honest man.

My fellow Republicans, sans lanterns, are now wandering around the political landscape seeking to find the perfect Republican presidential candidate.

I don’t know if Diogenes ever found that honest man, but I do know that those Republicans are never going to find the perfect candidate, simply because he does not exist.

Some Republicans insist that the only perfect candidate would be a clone of my Dad, Ronald Reagan. Aside from the fact that there is no such thing, it’s important to recognize that Ronald Reagan, as he often admitted, was anything but perfect.

One of the criticisms about former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney focuses on his record concerning the abortion issue. We are told by the modern day Diogenes clones that he can’t be trusted to fight abortion because he once, more or less, supported a woman’s right to butcher her baby.

It may come as a surprise to these purists, but Ronald Reagan once supported abortion too. Yet nobody ever questioned his strong pro-life credentials after his conversion to Republicanism. They accepted his sincerity. Why can’t they accept Mitt Romney’s?

Romney’s record shows he should be totally acceptable to all conservatives, yet because of one dubious question concerning the validity of his conversion to the pro-life side, he is deemed unsuitable to carry the conservative banner.

The same is true of Rudy Giuliani. On every major issue, he is a solidly conservative and extraordinarily adept executive, but because he backs abortion and some form of gun control, America’s mayor -- the hero of 9/11 and the man who did the impossible by cleaning up New York -- is all but ruled out as a 2008 candidate.

Not one of the major candidates is free of some real or imagined flaw that offends some conservatives.

This is madness, and if it does not stop, the GOP is going to lose the presidential election in 2008. In the search for the perfect candidate we are going to end up with an imperfect candidate. Keep in mind the truism that agreement with someone on most issues and disagreement on others is seen as normal, but should you agree with someone on every single issue imaginable … well… to put it plainly, psychologists say you’re nuts.

I recently got a letter from a conservative Christian organization that asked me if the current GOP candidates are the best the Republican Party has to offer.

“Is it possible that GOP conservative ranks are this thin?” the letter writer asked. “Has the GOP nothing better to offer? Should not pro-family pro-life voters also want a low taxes and limited government candidate before they vigorously support him? Increased taxes and expanded government hurts everyone. Was Ronald Wilson Reagan an anomaly and did he represent the values of his party?

“These GOP candidates,” the letter instructed me, “are little better than Bob Dole, Gerald Ford, or [George] H.W. Bush. Did anyone notice they all lost?”

This makes me wonder if anybody can stand up to the litmus test these people are applying to candidates.

Ronald Reagan had one litmus test he applied to candidates. Were they Republicans? If they were he backed them all the way. He would let the party choose the candidate and he would support and vote for the candidate. He didn’t go sniffing around trying to find some flaw in their character or their past. Once nominated, they were his choice.

And nobody was more candid in admitting that he was anything but perfect than my Dad. He knew that like all men, he had his flaws and he spent a lifetime combating them. Had today’s GOP litmus test been seriously applied to him, he could not have passed the test.

The Democrats don’t have litmus tests. If the nominee is a Democrat, they support their candidate all the way, and if they lose it isn’t because they didn’t fight like demons for their man or woman.

If we want to win in 2008, Republicans had better wake up, and quit talking Ronald Reagan and start being like Ronald Reagan.


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To: Soul Seeker
No, I don't hate Rudy like I hate McCain. But I do hate his positions and the issues trump the 9-11 mayor.

Bump!

441 posted on 02/16/2007 12:01:38 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Reagan Man

Not until I rid the world of ignorance.


442 posted on 02/16/2007 12:01:50 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: My GOP

You can start by getting on the next space shuttle.


443 posted on 02/16/2007 12:02:57 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Reagan Man

Whatever. Sean Hannity, Michael Reagan, and Rush Limbaugh are all open to Rudy, three great conservatives. Oh, I forgot, you're an all or nothing voter, on the right wing fringe, and don't understand political realities.


444 posted on 02/16/2007 12:04:41 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: My GOP; Reagan Man
I value the opinion of Reagan's Son than a self proclaimed Reagan Man. You got stuffed by Reagan's CONSERVATIVE son.

He's got you there.

445 posted on 02/16/2007 12:05:48 PM PST by HitmanLV ("I mean, that's a storybook, man!")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Because he has an "R" by his name.

I really don't know why some people post here and claim to be conservatives. No, there is no such thing as a perfect conservative. But when someone is pro-choice, pro-spending, pro-tax hikes, pro-Global warming environmentalist, pro-amnesty, pro gay marriage, pro embryonic stem cell, pro government...how stupid do they think we have to be to believe he's a conservative and we're just acting out of spite because he's not "pure".

Some of these people were furious when i supported Leiberman, and on some issues leiberman is more conservative then this liberal they are pushing. Difference was? I didn't claim Leiberman was a conservative. i didn't LIE. nor did I try to get him into the Republican party. I did what we're supposed to do. Support conservatives in the GOP, and support pro-Americans in the other party. of which there is only one anyway while the other choices were anti-American in that race.

Truth is pragmatists is another word for Liberal carriers, and they don't care a wit about the mission statement of this site only getting their "R" into office. being they know the leadership is NOT led by Conservatives and more often then not pushes the Liberal in the primary, their agenda is fairly obvious.

Opposition to Rudy is more then led by ONE issue, it's led by every plank of the Republican party except pro-defense. If we are going to vote for a Liberal that has only one redeeming value, let's go recruit Leiberman. He has already proven he can retain enough Dems and Indy's against another Dem to win. And he, at least, has a cleaner personal life.


446 posted on 02/16/2007 12:08:12 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: My GOP
Right, I expect a whole lot of conservatives to sell out for political expediency before this is over. Not this conservative, however.

Problem you're no conservative. You're just another liberal in Rudy`s camp.

447 posted on 02/16/2007 12:09:13 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Blackirish

Hey I missed the Dennis Miller one! What was that one? I'm a bit behind! LOL!


448 posted on 02/16/2007 12:14:16 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: HitmanLV; Reagan Man

I know I got him. And he can't stand it either.


449 posted on 02/16/2007 12:15:09 PM PST by My GOP (Reagan's Son carries 100 times more weight than any "Reagan Man".)
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To: areafiftyone

Dennis Miller said Rudy would have the perfect bumper sticker, "I'm the man the men in caves don't want to win".


450 posted on 02/16/2007 12:16:21 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives are pragmatic and realistic!!!!)
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To: My GOP

ROFLMAO! Wonderful! Thank you!


451 posted on 02/16/2007 12:16:46 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: My GOP
>>>>>>Oh, I forgot, you're an all or nothing voter, on the right wing fringe, and don't understand political realities.

I'm a conservative Republican. And you're a 20 year old troublemaker. You came on this thread, with no intention of debating, just looking for trouble. Like most kids.

In 1999&2000 I battled the GOP`s extremist rightwing fringe, taking pot shots at GW Bush.

Today I'm battling the GOP`s extremist lefwting, against the candidacy of Rudy the Liberal and his minions of RudyBots.

452 posted on 02/16/2007 12:16:57 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Revenge of Sith
The difference was that Reagan was a gracious loser in 1976 and supported Ford in the general election.

So who's not gracious?

Conservatives have graciously put up with GHWB, Bob Dole, and now W...who selected a pastiche of key conservative positions for purely political calculus...without being conservative himself. This is now so obvious for Pete's sake. And it fully explains the glaring incongruities and contradictions and logic-failures that have finally come home to roost electorally...try as he might to deny that the '06 election was a referendum on him.

As for the 11th Commandment, "Thou shalt not speak ill of thy fellow Republican,"... I prefer to cite subsection (a): "That is, unless that Republican doesn't actually believe in the stated principles of the Republican Party."

Did you ever notice that the people who so often cite that, as if it's a blanket prohibition against challenging other Republicans when necessary, often are also the very same people that gave Ronald Reagan so much grief during his terms as Governor of CA, and as President?

The irony is not lost on me.

453 posted on 02/16/2007 12:21:11 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Reagan Man

No, I'm trying to teach the political ignorant on here about political realities. That's why I took the time to write this long post:


I just can’t understand why so many are making Rudy look more liberal than he really is on social issues and why they refuse to acknowledge he is a conservative on just about every non-social issue and I certainly can’t understand how social issues are more important than all the other issues when choosing a President since the President has very little influence on social issues. And I certainly can’t understand how being “perfect” on social issues is more important than electability.

To begin with, Rudy is AGAINST gay marriage. On Hannity and Colmes on February 5th he said, “Marriage should be between a man and a woman. [It's] exactly the position I've always had.” Now as far as homos go, personally, I disagree with their life style but as long as they do what they do in the privacy of their own home I really don't care and nobody else should either, especially not the federal government. The POTUS doesn't have the power to stop people from being gay. And he surely shouldn't be interferring in people's private lives. And to top things off, marriage is a state issue. So therefore voting on the basis of this issue doesn't make much sense.

Rudy is not the abortion on demand liberal people make him out to be. He is against partial birth abortions, contrary to the misinformation some on here are posting. On Hannity Rudy said “Partial-birth abortion, I think that's going to be upheld(by the USSC). I think that ban is going to be upheld. I think it should be.” And as soon as Rudy got finished saying this, Hannity acknowledged, “There's a misconception that you supported partial-birth abortion”. So there we have, Rudy is against partial birth abortions. Rudy is also for parental notification. He also acknowledged this on Hannity. So Rudy certainly isn’t for abortion on demand.

In general on abortion, we have a pro-life President now but we are still having abortions. No president has the power to stop abortion. Rudy has already said he supports strict constructionist judges like John Roberts. He constantly praised the President for appointing Roberts and Alito. On Hannity Rudy said “I think the appointment of judges that I would make would be very similar to, if not exactly the same as, the last two judges that were appointed. Chief Justice Roberts is somebody I work with, somebody I admire, Justice Alito someone I knew when he was U.S. attorney, also admire. If I had been president over the last four years, I can't think of any, you know, that I'd do anything different with that.” Assuming Rudy gets elected President and appoints Roberts-like justices then maybe Roe v. Wade will get overturned. But even if it does get overturned we know that this won’t stop all abortions. The abortion issue would then revert back to the states and does anyone really think California would outlaw abortions? Being pragmatic in our thinking we all know we can't completely stop abortions. Therefore voting solely on this issue very unpragmatic. I hate abortions like everyone else on here but I realize that regardless of how many pro-life presidents we elect, its just not going to stop.

I'll admit his past gun stances are bothersome but he has say that what's good for NYC isn't good for all of America. However, he isn’t the anti-Second Amendment Nazi he is made out to be. On Hannity Rudy said, “I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms.” Rudy isn’t going to try to ban guns or come take anyones guns. Are Democrats pushing for gun control now that they have control of Congress? No. And nobody has pushed for gun control since Gore lost the election in 2000. Everyone knows its a losing issue and I don't see any push for gun control by anybody in the near future.

Rudy is great on all the other issues, the ones where the President actually has the power to make a real difference, like the WOT. He's fiscally responible(he turned a NYC's deficit into a surplus), a tax cutter(he cut over 20 taxes as Mayor), conservative on domestic policies(he dropped 600,000 people off welfare, cleaned up the rampant crime as Mayor and supports school choice, ect), for smaller government and government deregulation, for social security reform, supports strict constructionist judges, and is 100% perfect when it comes to his stance on the WOT and all other foreign policy which by the way is 100 times more important than worrying about what some gays people are doing, gay people that doesn't affect our lives at all!!!

Finally, Rudy is, IMO, the only Republicans that can win in 2008. So take your pick, Hillary or Rudy. Sure, we can "choose" another Republican but he will lose to Hillary. Back to Rudy, if he's elected President and fights terrorist like he fought crime as Mayor can you imagine the results we will in the defining struggle of our generation, the fight against Islamic fascism. Everyone know for a fact Hillary will surrender the terrorist and hand our foreign policy over to the UN and EU and poor Israel would be left out to dry. Rudy is extremely competetent and a great leader and there is nobody I want more as Commander in Chief. So I think we need to stop worrying about gays, people that don't affect our lives life at all. We need to worry about Islamic fascism, the people that want to kill us all, and vote for someone that will go after them.

Many in the conservative community are open to Rudy. Sean Hannity is certainly open to Rudy and likes Rudy. George Will wrote this about Rudy, ““His eight years as mayor of New York were the most successful episode of conservative governance in this country in the last 50 years, on welfare and crime particularly." Giuliani, more than any other candidate (Romney comes the closest) has the record of taking on major institutions and reforming them. Think about tourist magnet that is New York now. When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could. Under Rudy Giuliani’s leadership as Mayor of the nation’s largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. Not only did he fight crime in Gotham like Batman, despite being constantly vilified by the New York Times, he took head on the multiculturalism and victimization perpetuated by Al Sharpton and his cohort of race baiters. He ended New York’s set-aside program for minority contractors and rejected the idea of lowering standards for minorities. As far as the economy goes, Rudy reduced or eliminated 23 city taxes. He faced a $2.3 billion budget deficit but cut spending instead hiking taxes." Heck, even Rush is open to Rudy. Rush said, “"He's a smart cookie ... Here's the thing about Giuliani," he said on his radio show the other day. "Everybody's got problems with him ... But when you start polling him on judges, he's a strict constructionist ... That will count for quite a bit. He can fix the abortion thing ... So I think he's got potential--particularly, folks, since we're still going to be at war somewhere in 2008." If Rush is at least open to Rudy then he realizes Rudy isn’t that bad.

And apparently even Reagan liked Rudy. Rudy was Reagan's Associate Attorney General and was awarded the Ronald Reagan Freedom Award, putting him along side Margaret Thachter, Billy Graham, and Bob Hope as receiptants of the award. Speaking of Ronald Reagan, Reagan said this about compromise in his autobiography An American Life: "When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it. "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything. I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.' If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it."

Yes, Rudy may be alittle bit of a compromise but in reality, everytime you vote it’s a compromise. Nobody is ever going to find a candidate or a President they agree with 100% of the time, even Ronald Reagan. Reagan gave amnesty to illegal immigrants in 1986 and I’m sure the vast majority of Freepers disagree with that. Reagan even appointed O’Connor to the Supreme Court. Nobody is perfect. The only thing we can do is find the Presidential candidate we agree with the most on the most important issues and issues the President has the most influence over, the one that is the most electable, and the one that would make the best and strongest leader. That’s Rudy.

Back to Ronald Reagan for a second. In the above excerpt he used the term “radical conservatives”. So apparently Reagan thought that conservatives that were all or nothing, unappeasable, unpragmatic, and unrealistic are “radical”. I do too. Lets review history. World War II ended in 1945. SEVEN years later in 1952 the most popular general of the war, Dwight Eisenhower, won in a landslide despite far right extremist unpragmatic Republicans not supporting him in the primaries. History always repeats itself. I must now end the overly long post by quoting Dennis Miller, who also support


454 posted on 02/16/2007 12:21:36 PM PST by My GOP (Who should I listen too, Reagan's Son or Reagan Man?........Reagan's Son of course!!!)
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To: areafiftyone
Thanks for the ping
Michael Reagan rocks
455 posted on 02/16/2007 12:22:35 PM PST by firewalk
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To: areafiftyone
He was on O'Reilly and said he endorses Rudy cuz

"He's the man the men in the caves don't want to see president"

LOL

When O'Reilly asked him about McCaine he says he likes McCaine but at 72 the presidency is a younger mans game.
456 posted on 02/16/2007 12:24:37 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Reagan Man
Reagan and Giuliani are on the opposite sides of the political spectrum. Reagan was a conservative. Rudy`s a big govt liberal, pro-abort, pro-PBA, pro-amnesty, pro global warming kook, pro-gay rights, anti-2nd amendment, gungrabbing authoritarian.

I think you have fairly stated the inarguable facts pretty well.

457 posted on 02/16/2007 12:25:46 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Blackirish

Let me say this slow,,,

I DONT HATE RUDY...

HE SEEMS TO BE A STRONG LEADER...

I just wont vote for someone who wants to take my guns or regulate my second amendment guarrantees into oblivion.


458 posted on 02/16/2007 12:25:58 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: My GOP
>>>>>>No, I'm trying to teach the political ignorant on here about political realities.

First you have to learn what politics is all about. Right now, you don't know the basic differences between conservatism and a liberalism.

And you can save you spam posts for some liberal who cares, or some conservative, like Michael Reagan, thinking about selling out his principles and integrity to support a liberal for POTUS. Political expediency is not what conservatism is all about.

459 posted on 02/16/2007 12:26:45 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: meg88

bump


460 posted on 02/16/2007 12:27:30 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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