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Was Nathan Bedford Forrest the Best Confederate Cavalry Leader in the West?
Military History Online ^ | 12/09/2007 | Laurence Freiheit

Posted on 12/09/2007 8:55:00 PM PST by indcons

Had the Civil War not occurred when it did allowing Nathan Bedford Forrest to serve as a cavalry officer, we very likely would not be studying or even reading about him today. Of course the same could be said about Ulysses S. Grant and many other notable Civil War commanders. What separates Forrest from other successful general officers are his accomplishments despite his almost total lack of education or military background and his impoverished upbringing. His rise from private to lieutenant general was clearly earned, not gained through political influence or social standing. His military success are due to virtually every element which made up this man, but more importantly, how he conducted his martial career given his physical, mental and spiritual makeup is what arguably made him the best Confederate cavalry general during the war.

Forrest had little formal education, limited to six months, which is reflected many times when reading documents written personally by him and attempts by writers to describe his manner of speaking. Combined with this seeming handicap, he had no military training or experience prior to the Civil War, yet he became one of the best, if not the best, Confederate cavalry commanders. Forrest fought as a cavalry commander as he lived; he did not need Jomini or Clausewitz or years at West Point to show him how to fight or command, he entered the war with all the physical, mental and spiritual tools needed not only to survive but to prosper.

He rose from an impoverished background on a frontier farm where hard physical labor outdoors from sun up to sun down, and then inside by firelight, was the rule. This difficult life served to strengthen his congenitally hearty physique, but also to school him with practical knowledge about such every day things as the weather, domestic and wild animals, firearms, and horsemanship. Making do with what was at hand, inventing, improvising or modifying items to accomplish what must be done was routine; learning from these experiences was the key. But what he could not learn about resourcefulness he inherited; in addition to his strong physiognomy he showed a seeming fearlessness. This, combined with a temper often barely under control endowed the child and young man with an attitude and reputation which followed him throughout his life and marked his wartime career. He was as familiar as any small farmer with bloodshed as butchering farm animals or game was a normal part of his life. Too, he witnessed the death of several members of his family due to illness so he was inured to the transitory nature of life, human and animal. The self-reliant farm life also taught him when cooperation was needed whether it was a simple as getting a family member to help moving a heavy object to seeking neighbors' help raising a barn; he knew his limits. His life experiences and his success at overcoming routine and extraordinary obstacles by his own deeds made him realize that actions usually speak louder than words. But one of the things he did learn was that sometimes bluff, backed up by the threat of force, could succeed. Added to this he established a reputation that he saw could serve to obviate the need for physical force—the threat would suffice. But the many anecdotes about his early life show that he was not averse to use any weapons at hand to help in any affray. His childhood and early years combined with his genetic gifts predicted his wartime successes should he be able to apply them well.

His honesty and charisma undoubtedly also led to his doing well in business as well as war. To do well in business, especially slave trading, one must learn to understand and work well with people since his most lucrative business enterprise was selling humans to humans. Learning how to speak with, understand, and even manipulate and control others while observing their weaknesses and abilities are of great value to a military leader. Too, Forrest's maturity—40 years old in 1861—gave him a better vantage point than younger officers could have; his variegated life experiences for his first four decades offered a longer perspective and a plethora of events from which he could draw. However, Forrest's struggles to control his temper and his very strong sense of personal honor and integrity would hamper him throughout his military life. His strong individualistic trait and self reliance would serve to make him ofttimes a reluctant subordinate and make him shine as an independent commander.

Forrest's involvement with local and county governments enhanced his confidence in his abilities and his knowledge of organizations when, for example, he was a member of the board of Aldermen in Memphis. His successes as a planter and businessman helped his military career, initially by enabling him to pay for arms equipment to help supply his regiment, but also to bring his reputation as a businessman and citizen to allow him to raise a regiment. And he must have had no doubt as to which side he would embrace when the war began; he knew that his plantation required slave labor to be profitable and that his slave trading business would be ended if the North won, thus he and his family would have to start over should the North be victorious.

His first military forays proved that he was not averse to using unconventional and perhaps non regulation tactics such as taking hostages and threatening their lives to accomplish a mission. But his first major mounted action showed that he did have something to learn about tactics as he impetuously charged a Union line before his disorganized troopers were prepared and he was in clear danger of being killed. He was rescued by one of his subordinate officers who kept his head and did not engage in Forrest's initial wild pursuit of the Federal troopers. Forrest did, once those men came up, employ them well dismounting some and having small units go around each flank preparatory to a frontal charge which succeeded well routing the Union troopers. This action at Sacramento, Kentucky, showed Forrest that controlled aggression, using mounted and dismounted troopers, and flanking the enemy worked well. He probably also learned that headlong, wild, uncoordinated pursuits, no matter how brave, might not be the best way to attack an enemy, especially one who is prepared for the onslaught.

Forrest also learned much at Fort Donelson in February 1862. In his combined attack with part of the Orphan Brigade, the 2nd Kentucky, he saw that combining his cavalry with aggressive and well-led infantry could be more successful than either alone as these forces successfully sent W.H.L. Wallace's men and much of McClernand's division reeling, capturing cannon and many prisoners. In addition to this valuable tactical lesson, he learned from watching and speaking with the three generals in charge, Gideon J. Pillow, Simon B. Buckner, and John B. Floyd, how high rank does not confer military sagacity or even common sense as all three decided to surrender when escaping was a better option as Forrest quickly demonstrated. This pathetic display certainly enhanced his probably unconscious belief that operating as an independent commander would better suit him. Fort Donelson gave Forrest several valuable military lessons which included reinforcing to him the need to do his own scouting as false or inaccurate reports almost scuttled his escape attempt as it did for the three generals. He also found that surrendering was not part of his repertoire.

At Shiloh, Forrest's abandonment of his assigned position guarding fords at Lick Creek to join in the fighting showed that he still had not matured as a commander. As he covered the Confederate retreat to Corinth, another impetuous but initially successful charge halted the Union chase but almost resulted in his death; he was engulfed by Union infantry when his troopers wisely turned back upon seeing that they were vastly outnumbered. Forrest paid for his boldness by being seriously wounded, emphatically reinforcing this lesson. He continued to learn his trade as he later profited from watching some of his new troopers undergoing mounted drill of which he knew little. He was not afraid to learn from his subordinate officers what he did not know and taught them the hard reality of combat from his recent experiences.

His on-the-job training continued at his Murfreesboro raid which he first used his demand for surrender request and also his deploying his men so they appeared to be in great numbers. These tactics, along with hard fighting and not quitting when the battle was half won resulted in taking the entire garrison. Inflating his numbers and relying on his growing reputation while sowing misinformation served him well in all his later military adventures. Usually outnumbered, he relied on his cunning and knowledge of human nature to be his allies. He learned his earlier lessons of avoiding wild, disorganized frontal charges aptly demonstrated at Trenton, Tennessee, where once he learned that the Union was well fortified in the town, he used his artillery to good effect forcing them to surrender. Supplying his troopers with Union largesse was standard procedure by now as he tried to ensure that this, his third new command, was well-equipped.

All of his newly learned military wisdom combined with his normal aggression and fighting spirit was in evidence at Parker's Crossroads where he was in danger of being surrounded. He fought his way out aided by his desire not to surrender and the aggressive actions of his subordinate officers. That all of his lessons learned might not be sufficient was demonstrated by his actions at Fort Donelson in early 1863 which his part of the battle went poorly despite all his efforts. Forrest, who served under Joseph Wheeler in this battle, was furious perhaps at himself but his anger manifested itself by Forrest telling Wheeler he would never serve under him again. Forrest's human relations abilities failed here. That his temper was also not under constant control was shown when after the successful conclusion of the Streight raiders, he and a lieutenant he had insulted scuffled; Forrest was shot and the lieutenant died as a result of Forrest's stabbing him. Forrest's famous temper was again shown to Braxton Bragg after Bragg took some of his men and put them and Forrest under Wheeler's command. Reportedly, Forrest did everything short of challenging his commanding officer to a duel, disrespect Forrest showed to all of his commanders whom he believed were threatening him by personal attacks or by persecuting him.

Forrest showed that his bluffing ability was raised to a fine art possibly exceeded his renowned fighting ability when, after chasing Abel Streight's mule-mounted infantry, he forced his surrender by multiplying his numbers by crafty marching and deploying and redeploying his artillery. But his most famous victory, Brice's Cross Roads, involved little bluffing; it combined his knowledge of the enemy's movements and composition, how he would react to Forrest's initial actions, and how to best use the terrain and weather to allow his much smaller force to defeat its larger and better equipped foe. He had to use all of his knowledge, skills and personal ability to fight the enemy to a standstill, out flank him on both flanks, while engaging him in frontal assaults during which Forrest battled from the front. Here, in sole command, his abilities shown as he and his men turned a retreat into a wonderful rout. During the rout, he again employed a tactic he often used of chasing the retreating foe by rotating his units so that he could continue the pressure incessantly by always having a rested unit in closely pursuing an exhausted enemy. Brice's Cross Roads showed that Forrest was more than just a raider.

His final success as a commander was ironically during his service as rear guard for Hood's defeated army retreating from Nashville. He performed excellent rear guard actions saving as much as possible of the remnants of the Army of Tennessee but this and subsequent actions depressed Forrest as he saw that the Union juggernaut was impossible to stop. During Wilson's Selma Campaign, Forrest performed as well as he could being heavily outnumbered suffering another wound. He knew his war was over. Though Forrest best operated independently and arguably best as a raider, he was usually always aware of general strategy. The best example of this was his desire to strike Sherman's long supply line as Sherman was chasing Joseph E. Johnston. By this stage of the war, Forrest knew that the North's manpower and supply advantages meant that direct confrontation was impossible so cutting the monster's long tail and gobbling up small outposts was the best approach. One of his last and most notable successes was his remarkable destruction of Union supplies, facilities and even boats during his late 1864 raid along the Tennessee River. Mounting his artillery on captured boats highlighted his ingenuity. The weak southern rail network which worked fairly well during the first two years of the war was failing as facilities wore out or were destroyed by Union advances and raiders. This also meant that more and more Forrest had to live off the land and supply himself from captured Union armaments and supplies. The South's ability to concentrate large armies quickly to confront Union armies was curtailed making Forrest even more necessary for any hope remaining for the South.

Unfortunately, for Southern hopes, Confederate leadership in the west and in Richmond recognized too late that Forrest and his tactics were the only hope left to salvage anything in the western theater. Undoubtedly his prickly attitude and open disparagement of commanders who he believed were either incompetent or actively seeking to thwart his personal or military endeavors did not help him. All of the lessons Forrest learned in the first years of the war could have been put to good use but for the short sightedness and less-than-aggressive attitude of many of his commanders, most notably Braxton Bragg. Forrest never had a Robert E. Lee to appreciate and exploit his talents as Lee did with Jeb Stuart. The Civil War gave Forrest the stage to fully display the life and personality which contributed so much to the Southern cause.


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To: Brad from Tennessee
In the 1930's, German Army Colonel Irwin Rommel traveled to Shiloh and other military parks in the region in the course of studying Forrest's practice of mobile warfare.

No. There's a 1986 novel called "Rommel and the Rebel" about that, but, according to a review: "Lawrence Wells --taking off from a 1937 newspaper clipping about a visit by five German military dignitaries to Mississippi and the battlefield of Brices Cross Roads-- improves on history by supposing that Rommel, incognito, was one of the five." Rommel may well have studied Forrest's campaigns, but he never visited the United States.

101 posted on 12/10/2007 11:31:01 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: wardaddy

I published a decent art portrait of Forrest some years back....sold a few thousand of them.....a few folks here have one.

The artist died last year....an Indian or sorts.


102 posted on 12/10/2007 11:33:20 AM PST by wardaddy (subservient well trained former shrew tamer for Thompson)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I’ll see what else I can find out about this.


103 posted on 12/10/2007 11:50:37 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee
In the 1930's, German Army Colonel Irwin Rommel traveled to Shiloh and other military parks in the region in the course of studying Forrest's practice of mobile warfare.

A nice story but unfortunately not true. Rommel never visited the U.S., and never set foot outside of Germany unless he was invading.

104 posted on 12/10/2007 11:54:26 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Thanks. I tried doing a Google search but didn’t come up with anything.


105 posted on 12/10/2007 1:38:07 PM PST by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: Badeye
there was NO massacre. period. end of story.

the TRUTH is that the "whole thing" was "made up out of whole cloth" as a CLUMSY attempt by the "crowd of thugs, cheap politicians & nitwits" (which comprised "the lincoln MAL-administration") to try to besmirch the reputation of the CSA in Europe. the attempt was a FLOP. (only DUMB-bunnies & the ignorant believed them after the truth started coming out from persons who were THERE on both the US & CS sides, as well as the "foreign observers")

just the report of one of the "foreign serving officers", CPT Lourdes F. Compania of the Royal Spanish Guards, to his commanding general makes your opinion look SILLY.

CPT Compania stated that:

Anyone who would be deceived by the ridiculous & ill-conceived web of untruths told by the newspapers & the Union's High Command is INCOMPETENT to serve in any military forces. (NOTE: no quotation marks, but this is CLOSE to an exact quote from Compania's report.)

as i said earlier, you should turn off your computer, go to the library & LEARN the UN-comfortable truth that you (and many others like you) have been deceived.

free dixie,sw

106 posted on 12/10/2007 2:28:51 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Stonewall Jackson; All
interesting!!! i had NO idea that all 3 "kids" went to Cuba in support of the war.

also, i wonder WHY "Tom" was listed as a "cadet aide-de-camp in West Point gray"???? (i would NOT think that a "naval cadet" would havve done so.)

free dixie,sw

107 posted on 12/10/2007 2:33:11 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Why would a Spanish observer in the Civil War be named Lourdes?


108 posted on 12/10/2007 4:29:53 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: af_vet_rr
Check out Armstrong’s actions at Middleburg, Tennessee, and Britton’s Lane prior to the Battles of Iuka and Corinth. Also, it would be interesting to check out how Armstrong performed at the Battle of Bull Run....as a Yankee cavalryman.
109 posted on 12/10/2007 5:13:18 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Why would a Spanish observer in the Civil War be named Lourdes?

He wouldn't, because there was no Lourdes F. Compania in the Royal Spanish Guards or the Civil War or anywhere else other than Stand Watie's mixed-up mind.

110 posted on 12/10/2007 5:22:23 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Don’t forget to add General Heath, to the mix either.


111 posted on 12/10/2007 5:28:40 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade ('A nation which dose not remember what it was yesterday does not know where it is today... R.E. Lee)
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To: stand watie
The first reports of the Battle at Fort Pillow were from the Memphis Avalanche, a Union Newspaper that used the battle to scare the negroes into fighting for the North and fear surrender to Southerners. The reports of the Memphis newspaper were sensationalized and untruthful and are quoted liberally in history books, especially the Black History Books. This reference has been discounted by many historians.
112 posted on 12/10/2007 5:30:47 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Harry Heth has to go down as having the most unique reason for missing a major battle. Everyone knows that Heth missed the charge on the third day of Gettysburg because he was wounded, thus giving Pickett the command and having the charge named after him. But it’s the details of the wound that makes it interesting. Heth was shot in the head. However he was wearing a loose-fitting hat and in order to keep it from slipping down over his eyes he had stuffed it full of paper. It was the paper which deflected the bullet and kept the wound from being fatal. As it was he was merely knocked out with a concussion.


113 posted on 12/10/2007 5:40:26 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: rustbucket

A book on the war in the (real) west might be short, but it would be a great read.


114 posted on 12/10/2007 10:01:48 PM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice - but he's looking better)
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To: stand watie

‘there was NO massacre.’

Thats simply not true. Only 20% of the black soldiers ‘survived’ as compared to 60% of the caucasian soldiers.

Letters and diaries from CSA troops confirm that many of the black soldiers fell to their knees and begged for mercy, only to be instructed to stand up...at which point they were ‘gunned down’.

Pretending this didn’t occur is simply ridiculous.


115 posted on 12/11/2007 5:59:30 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: norton
A book on the war in the (real) west might be short, but it would be a great read.

I have a few.

- Civil War in Texas and New Mexico Territory by Steve Cottrell. This is the book that contained the mule story.

- The Confederate Invasion of New Mexico and Arizona, 1861-1862 by Robert Lee Kerby.

- Rebels on the Rio Grande, The Civil War Journal of A. B. Peticolas by Don E. Alberts. In it I found mention of one of my cousins who was in Sibley's force.

- The Battle of Glorieta, Union Victory in the West by Don E. Alberts.

There are interesting books on the war in Texas. Texans fought Indians and invaders from Mexico as well as Federal troops. Here is one that stands out:

- Battle on the Bay, the Civil War Struggle for Galveston by Edward T. Cotham, Jr. This details how the Texans using two old steamers whose decks were lined with compressed cotton to protect the troops manning them defeated the Federal navy in Galveston Harbor and captured the Harriet Lane of Charleston fame. Together with Confederate land troops they succeeded in capturing or throwing Federal invaders off Galveston Island. Interestingly, the Confederate troops who did this were part of the Sibley army that invaded New Mexico.

116 posted on 12/11/2007 6:57:23 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
you might go ask his mother why, LIAR/BIGOT. (be sure & head over to Spain to look for her grave. you will NOT be missed on FR.)

i didn't name the Captain.

asking FOOLish/needless/ARROGANTLY STUPID nonsense like that is why you are thought to be BOTH a bigot & a FOOL. (pity, that you evidently aren't smart enough to KNOW how you are seen by others here, so that you would "run away & hide w/tears of humiliation".)

face it, "bubba", you're nothing more than a SERIAL LIAR, who is DESPISED roundly by all here, who are "blessed with" reading your DUMB-bunny, arrogant,clumsy, DIShonesty.

also, WHEN are you going to:

1. admit again WHO you were before you were banned from FR, FOREVER,

2. tell everyone WHAT exactly you DID to be permanently BANNED &

3. tell everyone WHAT CRIME that you ADMITTED committing to try (UN-successfully) to win an argument on FR?? (be sure to provide PROOF, as you are well-known to be "a creature WITHOUT honor".)

laughing AT you, BIGOT.

free dixie,sw

117 posted on 12/11/2007 9:09:05 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: vetvetdoug; All
"The Avalanche" was NOT the only "newspaper" or other "source" that told KNOWING, intentional,outrageous, LIES.

today the place of the editor of that rag has been taken by the LEFTIST/REVISIONIST/hate-FILLED, lunatic fringe of northeastern/LEFT coast academia.

the DAMNyankees LIED then;the REVISIONIST LEFT lies NOW.

as for "Black History Books", the authors of those texts SHOULD "take a second look at" the Battle of Ft Pillow. what they would find is that the Black troops of both the USA/CSA fought with HONOR, great BRAVERY & (at least in some small-unit cases) nearly to the last man standing. those men were GRAND warriors for "their cause";FEW today are their equal! TRUE warriors today honor their memory, regardless of which uniform they wore!

free dixie,sw

118 posted on 12/11/2007 9:19:26 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
why of course you cannot admit it, Mr Minister of DAMNyankee Propaganda.

the "house of cards", that the unionists/REVISIONISTS/LEFTISTS here try to prop-up, will not much longer stand against the "uncomfortable" FACTS about the :

1. DYs DEATH CAMPS (where TENS of thousands of CSA prisoners of war were abused, tortured, denied shelter, denied medical care & MURDERED in cold blood),

2.Slaughter of UN-armed women & children by the THOUSANDS &

3. TARGETING Blacks (both slave & free), AmerIndians, Jews,Latinos, Roman Catholics,Quakers & other religious/racial minorities for "especial treatment" like mass rape,robbery,arson, torture & outright MURDER.

if you DID admit the truth, it would result in everyone here learning that every member of "the DAMNyankee coven" on FR are BOTH knowing LIARS & allies of the REVISIONIST left.

the FACTS are NOT on the DAMNyankee's side, so you & other DYs like you LIE,spout nonsense, spew out venom,tell "half-truths", deceive the naive, try to change the subject and "run your mouth" about NOTHING.

laughing AT all the members of "the DAMNyankee coven".

free dixie,sw

119 posted on 12/11/2007 9:35:35 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Badeye
don't you get TIRED of being laughed AT???

the FACTS are NOT on the side of the REVISIONISTS. face it, "badeye", you've been lied TO & made a fool OF. (SADLY, i must tell you that you are NOT alone in being made a FOOL of.)

free dixie,sw

120 posted on 12/11/2007 9:37:36 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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