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Was Nathan Bedford Forrest the Best Confederate Cavalry Leader in the West?
Military History Online ^ | 12/09/2007 | Laurence Freiheit

Posted on 12/09/2007 8:55:00 PM PST by indcons

Had the Civil War not occurred when it did allowing Nathan Bedford Forrest to serve as a cavalry officer, we very likely would not be studying or even reading about him today. Of course the same could be said about Ulysses S. Grant and many other notable Civil War commanders. What separates Forrest from other successful general officers are his accomplishments despite his almost total lack of education or military background and his impoverished upbringing. His rise from private to lieutenant general was clearly earned, not gained through political influence or social standing. His military success are due to virtually every element which made up this man, but more importantly, how he conducted his martial career given his physical, mental and spiritual makeup is what arguably made him the best Confederate cavalry general during the war.

Forrest had little formal education, limited to six months, which is reflected many times when reading documents written personally by him and attempts by writers to describe his manner of speaking. Combined with this seeming handicap, he had no military training or experience prior to the Civil War, yet he became one of the best, if not the best, Confederate cavalry commanders. Forrest fought as a cavalry commander as he lived; he did not need Jomini or Clausewitz or years at West Point to show him how to fight or command, he entered the war with all the physical, mental and spiritual tools needed not only to survive but to prosper.

He rose from an impoverished background on a frontier farm where hard physical labor outdoors from sun up to sun down, and then inside by firelight, was the rule. This difficult life served to strengthen his congenitally hearty physique, but also to school him with practical knowledge about such every day things as the weather, domestic and wild animals, firearms, and horsemanship. Making do with what was at hand, inventing, improvising or modifying items to accomplish what must be done was routine; learning from these experiences was the key. But what he could not learn about resourcefulness he inherited; in addition to his strong physiognomy he showed a seeming fearlessness. This, combined with a temper often barely under control endowed the child and young man with an attitude and reputation which followed him throughout his life and marked his wartime career. He was as familiar as any small farmer with bloodshed as butchering farm animals or game was a normal part of his life. Too, he witnessed the death of several members of his family due to illness so he was inured to the transitory nature of life, human and animal. The self-reliant farm life also taught him when cooperation was needed whether it was a simple as getting a family member to help moving a heavy object to seeking neighbors' help raising a barn; he knew his limits. His life experiences and his success at overcoming routine and extraordinary obstacles by his own deeds made him realize that actions usually speak louder than words. But one of the things he did learn was that sometimes bluff, backed up by the threat of force, could succeed. Added to this he established a reputation that he saw could serve to obviate the need for physical force—the threat would suffice. But the many anecdotes about his early life show that he was not averse to use any weapons at hand to help in any affray. His childhood and early years combined with his genetic gifts predicted his wartime successes should he be able to apply them well.

His honesty and charisma undoubtedly also led to his doing well in business as well as war. To do well in business, especially slave trading, one must learn to understand and work well with people since his most lucrative business enterprise was selling humans to humans. Learning how to speak with, understand, and even manipulate and control others while observing their weaknesses and abilities are of great value to a military leader. Too, Forrest's maturity—40 years old in 1861—gave him a better vantage point than younger officers could have; his variegated life experiences for his first four decades offered a longer perspective and a plethora of events from which he could draw. However, Forrest's struggles to control his temper and his very strong sense of personal honor and integrity would hamper him throughout his military life. His strong individualistic trait and self reliance would serve to make him ofttimes a reluctant subordinate and make him shine as an independent commander.

Forrest's involvement with local and county governments enhanced his confidence in his abilities and his knowledge of organizations when, for example, he was a member of the board of Aldermen in Memphis. His successes as a planter and businessman helped his military career, initially by enabling him to pay for arms equipment to help supply his regiment, but also to bring his reputation as a businessman and citizen to allow him to raise a regiment. And he must have had no doubt as to which side he would embrace when the war began; he knew that his plantation required slave labor to be profitable and that his slave trading business would be ended if the North won, thus he and his family would have to start over should the North be victorious.

His first military forays proved that he was not averse to using unconventional and perhaps non regulation tactics such as taking hostages and threatening their lives to accomplish a mission. But his first major mounted action showed that he did have something to learn about tactics as he impetuously charged a Union line before his disorganized troopers were prepared and he was in clear danger of being killed. He was rescued by one of his subordinate officers who kept his head and did not engage in Forrest's initial wild pursuit of the Federal troopers. Forrest did, once those men came up, employ them well dismounting some and having small units go around each flank preparatory to a frontal charge which succeeded well routing the Union troopers. This action at Sacramento, Kentucky, showed Forrest that controlled aggression, using mounted and dismounted troopers, and flanking the enemy worked well. He probably also learned that headlong, wild, uncoordinated pursuits, no matter how brave, might not be the best way to attack an enemy, especially one who is prepared for the onslaught.

Forrest also learned much at Fort Donelson in February 1862. In his combined attack with part of the Orphan Brigade, the 2nd Kentucky, he saw that combining his cavalry with aggressive and well-led infantry could be more successful than either alone as these forces successfully sent W.H.L. Wallace's men and much of McClernand's division reeling, capturing cannon and many prisoners. In addition to this valuable tactical lesson, he learned from watching and speaking with the three generals in charge, Gideon J. Pillow, Simon B. Buckner, and John B. Floyd, how high rank does not confer military sagacity or even common sense as all three decided to surrender when escaping was a better option as Forrest quickly demonstrated. This pathetic display certainly enhanced his probably unconscious belief that operating as an independent commander would better suit him. Fort Donelson gave Forrest several valuable military lessons which included reinforcing to him the need to do his own scouting as false or inaccurate reports almost scuttled his escape attempt as it did for the three generals. He also found that surrendering was not part of his repertoire.

At Shiloh, Forrest's abandonment of his assigned position guarding fords at Lick Creek to join in the fighting showed that he still had not matured as a commander. As he covered the Confederate retreat to Corinth, another impetuous but initially successful charge halted the Union chase but almost resulted in his death; he was engulfed by Union infantry when his troopers wisely turned back upon seeing that they were vastly outnumbered. Forrest paid for his boldness by being seriously wounded, emphatically reinforcing this lesson. He continued to learn his trade as he later profited from watching some of his new troopers undergoing mounted drill of which he knew little. He was not afraid to learn from his subordinate officers what he did not know and taught them the hard reality of combat from his recent experiences.

His on-the-job training continued at his Murfreesboro raid which he first used his demand for surrender request and also his deploying his men so they appeared to be in great numbers. These tactics, along with hard fighting and not quitting when the battle was half won resulted in taking the entire garrison. Inflating his numbers and relying on his growing reputation while sowing misinformation served him well in all his later military adventures. Usually outnumbered, he relied on his cunning and knowledge of human nature to be his allies. He learned his earlier lessons of avoiding wild, disorganized frontal charges aptly demonstrated at Trenton, Tennessee, where once he learned that the Union was well fortified in the town, he used his artillery to good effect forcing them to surrender. Supplying his troopers with Union largesse was standard procedure by now as he tried to ensure that this, his third new command, was well-equipped.

All of his newly learned military wisdom combined with his normal aggression and fighting spirit was in evidence at Parker's Crossroads where he was in danger of being surrounded. He fought his way out aided by his desire not to surrender and the aggressive actions of his subordinate officers. That all of his lessons learned might not be sufficient was demonstrated by his actions at Fort Donelson in early 1863 which his part of the battle went poorly despite all his efforts. Forrest, who served under Joseph Wheeler in this battle, was furious perhaps at himself but his anger manifested itself by Forrest telling Wheeler he would never serve under him again. Forrest's human relations abilities failed here. That his temper was also not under constant control was shown when after the successful conclusion of the Streight raiders, he and a lieutenant he had insulted scuffled; Forrest was shot and the lieutenant died as a result of Forrest's stabbing him. Forrest's famous temper was again shown to Braxton Bragg after Bragg took some of his men and put them and Forrest under Wheeler's command. Reportedly, Forrest did everything short of challenging his commanding officer to a duel, disrespect Forrest showed to all of his commanders whom he believed were threatening him by personal attacks or by persecuting him.

Forrest showed that his bluffing ability was raised to a fine art possibly exceeded his renowned fighting ability when, after chasing Abel Streight's mule-mounted infantry, he forced his surrender by multiplying his numbers by crafty marching and deploying and redeploying his artillery. But his most famous victory, Brice's Cross Roads, involved little bluffing; it combined his knowledge of the enemy's movements and composition, how he would react to Forrest's initial actions, and how to best use the terrain and weather to allow his much smaller force to defeat its larger and better equipped foe. He had to use all of his knowledge, skills and personal ability to fight the enemy to a standstill, out flank him on both flanks, while engaging him in frontal assaults during which Forrest battled from the front. Here, in sole command, his abilities shown as he and his men turned a retreat into a wonderful rout. During the rout, he again employed a tactic he often used of chasing the retreating foe by rotating his units so that he could continue the pressure incessantly by always having a rested unit in closely pursuing an exhausted enemy. Brice's Cross Roads showed that Forrest was more than just a raider.

His final success as a commander was ironically during his service as rear guard for Hood's defeated army retreating from Nashville. He performed excellent rear guard actions saving as much as possible of the remnants of the Army of Tennessee but this and subsequent actions depressed Forrest as he saw that the Union juggernaut was impossible to stop. During Wilson's Selma Campaign, Forrest performed as well as he could being heavily outnumbered suffering another wound. He knew his war was over. Though Forrest best operated independently and arguably best as a raider, he was usually always aware of general strategy. The best example of this was his desire to strike Sherman's long supply line as Sherman was chasing Joseph E. Johnston. By this stage of the war, Forrest knew that the North's manpower and supply advantages meant that direct confrontation was impossible so cutting the monster's long tail and gobbling up small outposts was the best approach. One of his last and most notable successes was his remarkable destruction of Union supplies, facilities and even boats during his late 1864 raid along the Tennessee River. Mounting his artillery on captured boats highlighted his ingenuity. The weak southern rail network which worked fairly well during the first two years of the war was failing as facilities wore out or were destroyed by Union advances and raiders. This also meant that more and more Forrest had to live off the land and supply himself from captured Union armaments and supplies. The South's ability to concentrate large armies quickly to confront Union armies was curtailed making Forrest even more necessary for any hope remaining for the South.

Unfortunately, for Southern hopes, Confederate leadership in the west and in Richmond recognized too late that Forrest and his tactics were the only hope left to salvage anything in the western theater. Undoubtedly his prickly attitude and open disparagement of commanders who he believed were either incompetent or actively seeking to thwart his personal or military endeavors did not help him. All of the lessons Forrest learned in the first years of the war could have been put to good use but for the short sightedness and less-than-aggressive attitude of many of his commanders, most notably Braxton Bragg. Forrest never had a Robert E. Lee to appreciate and exploit his talents as Lee did with Jeb Stuart. The Civil War gave Forrest the stage to fully display the life and personality which contributed so much to the Southern cause.


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To: Demo480
Did they ‘hijack’ it or did they pick it up out of the dirt? You ‘proud Confederates’ didn’t seem to be doing much with it anyway.

You've confused me with somebody else - I wouldn't say I was a "proud Confederate" - I don't identify myself as a "Confederate" in any way - it's a war that was fought several generations before my time - and as I said, the overwhelming majority of my family (including my direct ancestors) that lived in Texas during that time left Texas to fight for the Union. I am proud (as proud as one can be of one's ancestors that were in a war that was over long ago) that they did so, but that doesn't mean that I identify a certain way - I personally would identify myself as just another Texan long before I used a label like "Confederate" or "Union".

Hopefully it doesn't shatter your image of the South that many went and fought for the Union.

I also find it hilarious that you blame the ‘idjits’ for the current PC atmosphere. Yeah, if they just wouldn’t rock the boat...then the media/left/gov/et al wouldn’t attack Southerners and their history, and then you could slink around with the Battle Flag without too many people caring. It must be the ‘idjits’ that control Hollywood/The media.

Maybe it would be better to say that the idjit white supremacist types that wanted to make the Confederate Battle Flag their symbol were helped by the idjits in Hollywood who love visual symbols that play well in the newspapers and evening news and who love to say "see, because of these people, this symbol should be banned"?

As far as implying that I "slink around" with any kind of Confederate flags, the only Confederate-related flag that has graced any house I lived in was one that was captured by a relative who was dead for forty years before I was born. I was a child when it was donated to some little museum or society in Georgia, and unfortunately I was too young to recognize or care about the history behind it and the relatives who knew the history behind it are long dead. I couldn't even tell you where it was donated, that's how little of an impact it had on me (that and how young I was).
81 posted on 12/10/2007 9:41:56 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: gondramB

‘I’m not a military man and so cannot judge myself. But my Grandfather always said the Lord took Stonewall Jackson because other wise the South would have won and the Lord new it was not right that we should win.’

Many believe the war would have ended sooner had Jackson lived. His tactics worked well against politicians and officers with political connections to gain them a combat command, but would have been disasterous later in the war, specifically two months after his untimely death, at Gettysburg.

He’d have charged Culp’s and Cemetary on July 1st, 1863.

And gotten his ass handed to him.


82 posted on 12/10/2007 9:45:27 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Stonewall Jackson; All
i agree. i, too, am prone to "put on" ROUGH RIDERS to watch, from time to time.

that whole movie was FUN, imVho. (one wonders if the reason that the movie was NOT "pushed" by the studios/distributors/media was because the southland/southerners were HONESTLY portrayed???)

btw, GEN Wheeler DID take his son (a USMA 3d classman at the time. and yes, he DID wear "cadet gray" in Cuba.) to Cuba with him, as a "cadet aide".

GEN Wheeler also took a "manservant" with him, "who was 'an old family retainer', to care for my needs. i would not care to be a burden to anyone while there, due to the infirmities of advancing age".

free dixie,sw

83 posted on 12/10/2007 9:52:52 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Badeye
pardon me, but to constantly repost the LIES told by the DAMNyankee/LEFTISTS makes you look both IGNORANT & "not bright". inasmuch as you are not well-known on FR for your "intellectual ability" & "general knowledge", i'd think you'd remain silent, so as not to expose yourself to further RIDICULE.

free dixie,sw

84 posted on 12/10/2007 9:55:24 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: ModelBreaker
There was no calvary commander on the confederate side fit to hold Forrest’s shorts.

In an 1865 message to his own troops, Forrest described their accomplishments of the past year as follows (from an old post of mine that bears repeating):

Soldiers: The old campaign is ended, and your Commanding General deems this an appropriate occasion to speak of the steadiness, self-denial and patriotism with which you have borne the hardships of the past year. The marches and labors you have performed during that period will find no parallel in the history of this war.

On the 24th day of December, there were three thousand of you, unorganized and undisciplined, at Jackson, Tennessee, only four hundred of whom were armed. You were surrounded by fifteen thousand of the enemy, who were congratulating themselves on your certain capture. You started out with your artillery, wagon trains, and a large number of cattle, which you succeeded in bringing through, since which time you have fought and won the following battles -- battles which will enshrine your names in the hearts of your countrymen, and live in history, an imperishable monument to your prowess:

Jack's Creek, Estinaula, Summerville, Okalona, Union City, Paducah, Fort Pillow, Bolivar, Tishomingo Creek, Harrisburg, Hurricane Creek, Memphis, Athens, Sulphur Creek, Pulaski, Carter's Creek, Columbia, and Jacksonville are the fields on which you won fadeless immortality.

For twenty-six days from the time you left Florence, on the twenty-first of November, to the twenty-sixth of December, you were constantly engaged with the enemy, and endured the hunger, cold and labor incident to that arduous campaign without a murmur.

To sum up, in brief, your triumphs during the past year, you have fought fifty battles, killed and captured sixteen thousand of the enemy, captured two thousand horses and mules, sixty-seven pieces of artillery, four gunboats, fourteen transports, twenty barges, three hundred wagons, fifty ambulances, ten thousand stand of small arms, forty blockhouses, destroyed thirty-six railroad bridges, two hundred miles of railroad, six engines, one hundred cars, and fifteen millions dollars worth of property.

In the accomplishment of this great work, you were occasionally sustained by other troops, who joined you in the fight, but your regular number never exceeded five thousand, two thousand of whom have been killed or wounded, while in prisoners you have lost about two hundred.
Source: The Galveston Daily News, March 15, 1865
85 posted on 12/10/2007 9:56:58 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: stand watie

SW,

Your wildeye’d posts don’t serve you very well on this one topic, the only one you find of interest.

There was a massacre at Ft Pillow. There is no sane way to dispute it.


86 posted on 12/10/2007 9:59:17 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas

fyi


87 posted on 12/10/2007 10:02:44 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: gondramB
I’m not a military man and so cannot judge myself. But my Grandfather always said the Lord took Stonewall Jackson because other wise the South would have won and the Lord new it was not right that we should win.

People back in that time had some strong religious beliefs. My grandfather used to joke about some of our ancestors being Quakers with guns and attitudes. For them, it wasn't about states' rights or anything else politically related - they joined up with the Union because they were sure God was going to bring His wrath down on the South for having enslaved so many Christians (and I'm sure that those people living in Georgia and that area around there probably felt God was punishing them when Sherman passed through).

Our best guess is that somewhere in the 1840s or 1850s, they were all members of the same church and had one very intense preacher who convinced them that all of the slaveowners and their supporters were going to Hell for owning Christians. We have a few suspects and the few pre-Civil War letters we have show a definite change in attitude amongst some in the family in the 1850s.

If these people were alive now, I'm only half joking when I say they'd probably have their own compound. I shouldn't make light of their beliefs - enslaving Christians was a very evil and un-Christian thing to be doing, but they were out there. Had any of them come across any captured Confederates that actually owned slaves (there weren't that many in uniform that owned slaves), it would not surprise me if they had executed them. They were that far out there.
88 posted on 12/10/2007 10:03:36 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Memphis Moe; vetvetdoug

My Great-great uncle fell at Brice’s Crossroads, which was only day’s ride from his home at Shiloh.

I am happy they finally made Brice’s Crossroads a National Park.


89 posted on 12/10/2007 10:11:34 AM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: stand watie
Both of General Wheeler's sons served with him in Cuba.

The eldest, Joe Jr., had graduated from West Point in 1895 and served as his father's Aide-de-Camp during the fighting in Cuba, eventually rising to the rank of Colonel before retiring.

The younger son, Tom, was a naval cadet who served on his father's staff in Cuba and then journeyed with the Army to Montauk Point, Long Island, where the soldiers were quarantined because of Yellow Fever and Malaria. While staying at Montauk Point, Tom attempted to save the life of a comrade who was drowning in the Atlantic and ended up losing his own life.

As an interesting aside, Annie, one of General Wheeler's daughters, served as a nurse in support of the Army in Cuba.

Click here for more info on Joe Jr., his military career, and his gallant family.

90 posted on 12/10/2007 10:15:52 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Badeye
Nobody outside of Richmond liked Bragg.

Nobody inside Richmond liked Bragg, either. Nobody but Jeff Davis. And that's all it took.

91 posted on 12/10/2007 10:21:57 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I almost added that when I wrote the post.


92 posted on 12/10/2007 10:47:22 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: indcons
This has been one of the very best CW threads so far, not so full of the usual did so - did not crossfire.

PS: For the flip side of Confederate cavalry action, I had an ancestor commanding mounted Texas cavalry (1st?) under Sibley in New Mexico. I'm sure he served well before and/or after that fiasco but reading up on it was like a 'Bullmoose meets F Troop' satire.

93 posted on 12/10/2007 10:50:25 AM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice - but he's looking better)
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To: FReepaholic

I heard this bit of information on a battlefield tour of Shiloh several years ago. When I looked on the web this morning I found this is based on a novel someone wrote based on an actual trip several German army officers made to Mississippi in the 1930’s. It is now believed Rommel was not in that group:

http://www.olemiss.edu/mwp/dir/wells_lawrence/


94 posted on 12/10/2007 11:03:28 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: indcons

Forrest was the best Confederate Cavalry leader ANYWHERE. Period.


95 posted on 12/10/2007 11:07:41 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: norton
For the flip side of Confederate cavalry action, I had an ancestor commanding mounted Texas cavalry (1st?) under Sibley in New Mexico. I'm sure he served well before and/or after that fiasco but reading up on it was like a 'Bullmoose meets F Troop' satire.

On both sides. On that campaign some Federal troops decided they would stamped a herd of cattle the Confederates had. They loaded up an old mule with percussion caps or something that would explode, lit a fuse, and beat the mule so it headed toward the cattle. However, the mule turned around and headed back toward the Federals. The Feds ran away like crazy before the mule blew up.

True story apparently.

96 posted on 12/10/2007 11:16:12 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket

Argh! Stamped = stampede


97 posted on 12/10/2007 11:18:56 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket

Argh! Stamped = stampede


98 posted on 12/10/2007 11:19:03 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: indcons
Was Nathan Bedford Forrest the Best Confederate Cavalry Leader in the West?

I a pig's **** pork?

99 posted on 12/10/2007 11:23:18 AM PST by wardaddy (subservient well trained former shrew tamer for Thompson)
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To: Stonewall Jackson; stainlessbanner; Travis McGee

A banker friend of mine in Murfreesboro is married to a lady whose great grandfather rode with Forrest.

They have a museum or sorts behidn their home and have on display the buggy he had in Forrest’s detachment....very well preserved....with blood stains of course.


100 posted on 12/10/2007 11:26:13 AM PST by wardaddy (subservient well trained former shrew tamer for Thompson)
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