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To: wintertime

“And, I won’t be surprised that if even more kids leave the faith within 2 years of graduating from high school. ( More than 85% now.)”

Why do you keep spreading this lie when you know it’s not true? What is true is that some percentage stop attending church for some period of time, but most return. And most of them never stop believing, they just don’t go to church regularly. I hardly went when I was in college.

Oh, here a few spare exclamation points in case you’ve run out. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


135 posted on 02/08/2008 10:47:13 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad
What is true is that some percentage stop attending church for some period of time, but most return
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Dr. Ray Moore of the Exodus Mandate is a liar?

Dr. Ray Moore has lied to the Southern Baptist Convention? Really? Please note in the quote at the bottom the words, “Never to return”.

**If** these formerly Christian kids return, it is with all the consequences of STDs, abortions, broken hearts, “walks of shame”, one night stands, broken marriage, divorces, child support payments, welfare checks, addictions, delinquencies, crime..etc.

Wow! Some come back. Most do not.

Homeschoolers have the right idea! Better to have 90% remain active.

If you want to argue stats, they write to Dr. Ray Moore. Please note the words: “NEVER TO RETURN”.

” Whereas, the Nehemiah Institute has discovered through
its extensive surveys of student attitudes and beliefs
that acceptance of a secular humanist worldview by
Christian children attending government schools has
increased dramatically over the last fifteen years, and

Whereas, the Southern Baptist Council on Family Life
reported to the 2002 Annual Meeting of the Southern
Baptist Convention that 88 percent of the children
raised in evangelical homes leave church at the age of
18, never to return;”

http://www.exodusmandate.org/art_christian-education-resolution-sbc.htm

138 posted on 02/08/2008 11:09:18 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: gracesdad
I would be considered by the Baptist church to be one who abandoned my childhood religion. I was raised Baptist, but grew very dissatisfied with the church and switched to the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. The WELS is very conservative, very Bible following and does not commune with the ELCA or ELCS as we consider them to have strayed from the faith. My sister took a similar path, with a different church. My one brother left the Fundamentalist Baptist for another branch. My younger brother is a Baptist minister.But according to the Baptist church, 3 of the 4 of us have left the church - a 75% 'failure' rate.

Figures are funny things - one can do anything with them they want. Do I believe that Dr. Shortt made this claim? Yes. Do I think he massaged the data to have it meet what he believes? Yes. Is he lying? I don't know. It depends on how massaged the data is and how much he believes he twisted it. Not my call. He can answer for his actions just like I can.

Anyone making this claim, including Dr. Shortt, has to know at best these figures are shaky, especially since Dr. Shortt did not release any of the specifics of any of the 'numerous studies.'

Trust, but verify

147 posted on 02/08/2008 12:09:24 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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