What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?

End The War on Freedom ^ | June 18, 2003 | Bill St. Clair

[terycarl]

Four “insurgents” with crude weapons could tie up 150 Marines for most of a day.

not with proper air support....eliminate the area in which the insurgents used for their “fortress”...ELIMINATE it !!!!!

[mad_as_he$$]

Do you think the ROE’s in this country will allow the destruction of a major urban area to wipe out a few insurgents? Besides air is just a tactical problem to be dealt with. You spoof it or destroy it.

[Dick Vomer]

His said NO ONE he talked with, some Officers included, would obey any command to attack or harm U.S. citizens. I felt better after that phone call.

Bullsh#t. Just like no FBI agents would actually kill children or burn them alive, then bulldoze a crime scene. Just like Federal ATF agents are there to protect citizens from evil criminal gun and explosive criminals.

Just like the little cops that like to go parading around in balaclavas and acting like little Sammy the Special operator.

They will collect their paycheck, follow orders like good little bureaucrats.

Maybe, just maybe a small percentage will resign or refuse to arrest civilians, but what will happen is that the first several will get prison or death and the rest will fall inline.

The way they'll do it is to round up all the Oath Keepers first, then everybody with a license for automatic weapons, followed by concealed carry permit holders... finally the NRA, GOA lists will be used then everybody that had hunting permits.

turn in your guns or get the knock on the door. would you go to the defense of a neighbor when a bunch of cops showed up. Nope. you and everybody else would tsk, tsk, tsk.. they should have obeyed the "insert generic regulation/fee/insurance mandate/" and they wouldn't be in trouble with the law.

Cops and soldiers get paid by the government and how many are willing to give that up?

the Army will go after civilians if they are "labeled" correctly and will even go after veterans...we've done it before and I'm sure that we'd or they'd do it again. Goes triple for cops.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/suppression.html?q=suppression.html

http://outlaw411.com/ArticleView.aspx?UName=Articles/20090717.10_THINGS_YOU_NEED_TO_KNOW_ABOUT_MARTIAL_LAW.html

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/race/100262race-ra.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/macarthur/peopleevents/pandeAMEX89.html

http://www.scienceviews.com/parks/prattstreetriot.html

[MountainDad]

Believe what you want, pal. I'm just repeating what my kid told me.

You been around infantry guys much lately?

[ex 98C MI Dude]

None of them would obey such an order. That is why it would come down alot differently than that. It won't be ‘go shoot any civilian who you see with a gun!’. It would be ‘A heavily armed group has attacked the local police while they were serving a valid search warrant. The police are outgunned and outnumbered, and there are officers down. We need to go get them out to a safe area for medical evac, and neutralize any threat to our and their safety.’

Our troops wouldn't be aware that the search warrant was to seize all the arms in town and round up all gun owners, ala Concord and Lexington. That would not be part of their pre-mission briefing. All they would be told is some group attacked the police, and the National Command Authority had determined that military intervention was warranted.

And our troops would go and complete that mission. That is just the way it is.

[Dick Vomer]

You been around infantry guys much lately? <\I>

I've been around a XO of a MEU, a couple of platoon leaders and some NCOs in the Marines. They'll follow lawful orders and the only non infantry guy was a Colonel In the USAF. Who knows what someone would do in the heat of the moment.

[MountainDad]

Thank you for your opinion.

[MountainDad]

Thank you for your opinion.

[Iron Munro]

"A handgun is for fighting your way to your rifle which you shouldn't have put down in the first place"

-- Clint Smith, US Marine, President and Director of Thunder Ranch

[ExSoldier]

Yeah and I'm certain I posted to it, too. But I'm glad to see it again since I'm always having this exact same debate with my students every school year. This time, I'll print it and use the article as a discussion springboard with my seniors.

[ExSoldier]

LOL I found my original posts for this year at #67. I'm going to keep it as a permanent part of my teaching references.

[brityank]

Thank you BUMP.

[Eastbound]

"But the military would be on our side. It’s Obama’s ‘civilian military force’ that we’d have to contend with."

Thirty-million illegal aliens armed with AK-47's, courtesy of Obammy and mammy planning a double-whammy against Uncle Sammy.

We need to get him out of office before he attempts that. Illegals, need I say, have no allegiance to America and are just stupid enough to want to shoot a rifle for Obammy for crack and a sack.

[Renegade]

While in the dreaded Walmart last week one of the gun mags( not sure which one ) had an article on the LIBERATOR. You can purchase clones of the original that are now being made or the original that will set you bacl a lot of $$$$.

[Renegade]

They won and there was a monument to their bravery in one of the last scenes of the film.

[Tucson_AZ]

Thanks. I hope we win at the end of the re-make: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn_%28upcoming_film%29

[Renegade]

Read “ One Second After “ . Bout what happens after an EMP attack on the USA. Not Pretty !!

[Tucson_AZ]

Haven't yet read it, but I well know the EMP vulnerabilities and scenarios. Have you seen this - EMP: A Terrorist's Dream - a short film produced by the Center for Security Policy warning about the dangers of an EMP attack"? 1850's tools and equipment would become very precious.

[Maverick68]

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[Joe 6-pack]

There's a Liberator pistol up for sale on gunsamerica.com, if you're interested :-)

http://www.gunsamerica.com/921432547/Guns/Pistols/Military-Misc-Pistols-US/Other/LIBERATOR_PISTOL_2799_00.htm