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To: kellynla

Here we go again.

Fire scorching homes built where they never should have been built in the first place. The CA ecosystem has been based on periodic brush clearing by fire for thousands of years. Man has interrupted that cycle, and now they are paying for it. I read that there had not been a fire in this area for nearly 50 years and that the underbrush had not been cleared in that time.

If you want to avoid this in the future, they need to implement strict building codes:

Brush clearing — nobody should be allowed to let their property be overgrown.

Fire retardent roofs — cement tile, metal, etc. Rigorously enforce this. Remove all wood shingle roofs.

Build multiple access roads — more than one way out of all areas.

Reduce crowding — tear down buildings too close to their neighbors’. Increase lot sizes.

Fire breaks between subdivisions must be kept cleared — open space with no vegetation.

Reservoirs for water storage.

I know that sounds harsh, and implementation will mean that many people currently living in these areas will have to move; but it must be done, or we will see this pattern repeated.

In the mean time, I feel terrible for those who are losing their houses, pets, and perhaps their lives.


7 posted on 08/30/2009 2:05:22 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So you’re going to let the government dictate what everyone can do with their property? How about letting them just take their chances, they know where they are building, if their houses burn down, tuff.


9 posted on 08/30/2009 2:09:52 PM PDT by AUH2O Repub (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

oh, and you don’t EVER have any natural disaster in Wisconsin now do ya.............

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19 posted on 08/30/2009 2:33:44 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; rellimpank; wiggen; kellynla

Afraidfortherepublic, you do know that current California law DOESN’T ALLOW people to clear their property, right?

Aside from that, I’m really disgusted with everybody on this thread who is cheering on the loss of homes and lives in this fire. Yes, things could be changed; but how would you feel if everything you had was going up in flames and people from across the country were cheering? Or if you were a firefighter engulfed in flames and you knew everybody thought this agony was something you deserved for living in California?

And as for illegals, wiggen, I hope when we all have to flee to Costa Rica after Obama cracks down on us, that you will relish our death by fire as much as you are wishing it on others.

Get a grip, folks


24 posted on 08/30/2009 2:39:51 PM PDT by livius
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Men can build anywhere. We are men, not animals.


42 posted on 08/30/2009 3:07:46 PM PDT by bvw
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Post #7 well said.


50 posted on 08/30/2009 3:27:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I know that sounds harsh, and implementation will mean that many people currently living in these areas will have to move; but it must be done, or we will see this pattern repeated.

I grew up there, and most of what you say has been done for years. I remember wood shingled roofs being banned back in the 60's for instance; and fire breaks were everywhere. There are reservoirs all over the place; Devils Gate Dam, Sierra Madre Canyon, to name a few. The fact is that people who live there know these things already. They should never be forced to move ( by whom ?). They accept the risks. What you propose and how ( forced to move) so that it never happens again ( a ridiculous claim) sounds a bit to tyrannical too me.

65 posted on 08/30/2009 4:02:00 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Take all your demands and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine.

I have a home in the #1 fire zone in Glendale and will fight your drastic demands!!!


68 posted on 08/30/2009 4:33:49 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: afraidfortherepublic

besides your damn demands, you aren’t even a Californianian so shut up!


69 posted on 08/30/2009 4:34:42 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: afraidfortherepublic
You apparently don't live in CA. Brush clearing is not allowed in CA, cutting trees, even on your own property is forbidden in most residential areas. All the old fire controlling methods that were used up until about 25(not 50)years ago cannot be done thanks to the EPA, both the feds and the state versions, and there idiotic rules. The problem isn't houses being built, it is the fact nothing can be done to prevent these firs or at least mitigate them.

If California residents built houses only where there was no danger of fire, flood, mudslides, earthquakes and, sometimes, tornados there would be no houses built at all in CA.

Sorry, but your list would be better if it simply listed 1:)vote for conservatives who use common sense, not democrat moonbats.

79 posted on 08/30/2009 4:56:49 PM PDT by calex59
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You forgot the new staff position at the fire department: Goat Herder, civil servant grade 14.

Let the critters eat the fuel, then eat the critters. Chivas for the masses!


119 posted on 09/06/2009 5:40:44 AM PDT by pointsal
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