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To: Political Junkie Too

Hayworth was supporting the tribes position that their lands were sovereign and not subject to US laws like paying federal taxes and being subject to zoning and environmental regulations like every other US business.

He was trying to give the tribes a competive advantage. Personally, I don’t think he believed it but they gave him so much money he couldn’t say no.

Hayworth sold his soul to the tribes. I’m not saying he is a bad man, I’m saying how much are you willing to ignore in your support of the “more conservative” candidate?

All politicians are either a whore going in or coming out. None are to be trusted, including Palin.


163 posted on 01/08/2010 4:20:28 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J
The Wiki entry on Hayworth doesn't paint as dramatic a portrait as you are. For instance:

You said: "Hayworth was supporting the tribes position that their lands were sovereign and not subject to US laws like paying federal taxes and being subject to zoning and environmental regulations like every other US business."

Wiki says: "Hayworth was co-chairman of the Native American Caucus in Congress."

Wasn't he just serving his constituents?

You said: "...they gave him so much money he couldn’t say no."

Wiki says: "Between 1999 and 2005, Hayworth received $69,000 from lobbyist Jack Abramoff and his clients, primarily from Indian tribes."

I've seen lists of donations received from Abramoff, and $69,000 does not seem like "so much money" by today's standards, or even 1999-2005 standards.

You said: "Hayworth sold his soul to the tribes. I’m not saying he is a bad man, I’m saying how much are you willing to ignore in your support of the “more conservative” candidate?"

Wiki says: "Like most Republicans elected in the 1994 landslide, Hayworth was an ardent conservative. He has said he believes border security and interior enforcement of immigration laws are the solutions — not a temporary worker program as proposed by President George W. Bush for Mexican illegal aliens... Hayworth said that Bush is too close to GOP contributors from the agribusiness, meat packing and construction industries, who he calls "addicted" to a steady stream of workers from Mexico and Central America to keep wages down. Hayworth also argues that current immigration law misinterprets the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, says that a child of undocumented immigrants born in the U.S. should not be given U.S. citizenship, and advocates the "Americanization" program Henry Ford advocated in an interview with the New York Times in 1914."

I'm not seeing it.

I'm seeing a candidate who was supporting his constituents, who was caught up in a national trend ginned up by the MSM to sweep out Republicans in 2006, and who was excoriated by the major newspaper as a "bully," "bombastic," and "obnoxious" in order to tilt the voters towards the Democrat.

This was exacerbated by the national drumbeat about GOP spending, Bush fatigue, the MSM exaggerated Mark Foley scandal, and Denny Hastert's reaction to it.

-PJ

176 posted on 01/08/2010 4:40:59 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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