Posted on 06/24/2010 10:00:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Pull BP’s finger.
The Macando reserve is under 4 miles of earth, which is under a mile of seawater. That’s a lot of gravitional weight to overcome in order for a giant bubble of methane gas to explode the seafloor. Realistically, the wellbore itself is the only escape route for such a gas bubble and if the wellbore had pierced a gas bubble at such pressure it would been apparent at millisecond one, not months later.
Of course, it has been clear that significant gas volumes have been escaping the well all along, together with liquid hydrocarbons.
I’m waiting to here from more sources on this too.
This could be nothing more than hysteria, similar to what we see from the ‘human caused planetary warmists’.
Sounds pretty far fetched.
If “40 percent by mass” of the well spilling output is methane, then the higher-carbon hydrocarbon content would be a mere trickle by volume.
Also this is supposed to be light SWEET crude, that means there is little or no sulfur in it.
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Why is this stuff being used?
will ultimately result in the evacuation and long-term abandonment of cities and towns within the 200-mile radius of the oil gusher.
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So, does this mean the BP and or the gov’t would be paying people for their property and it would all suddenly become Federal Land?
Gosh, with all the land the gov’t owns in the West—with intentions of taking more— then if they also get all this Gulf area...wow...just wow.
“The bubble is likely to explode upwards propelled by more than 50,000 psi of pressure, bursting through the cracks and fissures of the sea floor, fracturing and rupturing miles of ocean bottom with a single extreme explosion,” Matai explains
One of the reasons the water in town comes on when you turn on the tap is that pressure in a system equalizes, less friction, of course.
So the pressure before the well blew out is representative of the formation pressure==and that is the same throughout the formation.
If 16.8 pound per gallon mud was holding that back, the formation pressure is less than .052*the weight of the drilling mud in pounds per gallon* the height of the fluid column. IOW, 16.8*.052*18000, or 15,724 psi. Now that was holding the formation fluid in the formation, so it is the upper limit fo the formation pressure. The pressure exerted by the column of drilling fluid was reduced by roughly 2200 psi when the 16.8 pound mud in the riser was displaced by seawater, roughly 8.5 pounds per gallon, and about 5000 ft. of that. The math gives you a lower limit for the formation pressure, around 13,500 psi. The actual pressure is somewhere between that and 15,724 psi.
Not 50,000.
Methane is virtually insoluable in water at surface pressures, a mile down a bit more so, but if they are measuring that at the surface, the methane bubble has expanded 150 times, so some wild numbers are possible.
Basically, I think you are seeing some really hysterical BS, here, trying to get people in a panic. The end result of that only pumps the 'green' agenda, cap and trade, and panic, which makes fertile ground for Socialist seeds.
Knowledge is power.
While H2S is readily dissolved in water, wherever there is oil on the surface, it would be evident, because it dissolves in oil, too, and comes out of solution very well at warm temperatures and normal atmospheric pressure. In other word, you'd have smelled it by now. NO ONE on any beach cleaning up has the right gear on for H2S exposure, they aren't dead, therefore, there isn't very much out there--nothing close to hazardous amounts.
One more thing, in order to have an explosion (chemical reaction variety), you need to have oxygen in abundance or an oxidizing chemical in the system. Methane, H2S, and oil are fuels, but not oxidizers. The mixture has to be in the right range as well, and to do that in a very large area has defied the ability of arms technicians and inventors for decades.
Things could get a lot worse. I might plan for marshall law if I were a southern gent.
“A dire report circulating in the Kremlin today that was prepared for
Prime Minister Putin by Anatoly Sagalevich of Russia’s Shirshov
Institute of Oceanology warns that the Gulf of Mexico sea floor has been
fractured “beyond all repair” and our World should begin preparing for
an ecological disaster “beyond comprehension” unless “extraordinary
measures” are undertaken to stop the massive flow of oil into our
Planet’s eleventh largest body of water.
Most important to note about Sagalevich’s warning is that he and his
fellow scientists from the Russian Academy of Sciences are the only
human beings to have actually been to the Gulf of Mexico oil leak site
after their being called to the disaster scene by British oil giant BP
shortly after the April 22nd sinking of the Deepwater Horizon oil
platform.
BP’s calling on Sagalevich after this catastrophe began is due to his
being the holder of the World’s record for the deepest freshwater dive
and his expertise with Russia’s two Deep Submergence Vehicles MIR 1 and
MIR 2 [photo below] which are able to take their crews to the depth of
6,000 meters (19,685 ft).
According to Sagalevich’s report, the oil leaking into the Gulf of
Mexico is not just coming from the 22 inch well bore site being shown on
American television, but from at least 18 other sites on the “fractured
seafloor” with the largest being nearly 11 kilometres (7 miles) from
where the Deepwater Horizon sank and is spewing into these precious
waters an estimated 2 million gallons of oil a day.
Interesting to note in this report is Sagalevich stating that he and the
other Russian scientists were required by the United States to sign
documents forbidding them to report their findings to either the
American public or media, and which they had to do in order to legally
operate in US territorial waters.
However, Sagalevich says that he and the other scientists gave nearly
hourly updates to both US government and BP officials about what they
were seeing on the sea floor, including the US Senator from their State
of Florida Bill Nelson who after one such briefing stated to the MSNBC
news service “Andrea we’re looking into something new right now, that
there’s reports of oil that’s seeping up from the seabed... which would
indicate, if that’s true, that the well casing itself is actually
pierced... underneath the seabed. So, you know, the problems could be
just enormous with what we’re facing.”
Though not directly stated in Sagalevich’s report, Russian scientists
findings on the true state of the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster are beyond
doubt being leaked to his long-time friend, and former US President
George W. Bush’s top energy advisor Matthew Simmons, who US media
reports state has openly said: “Matthew Simmons is sticking by his story
that there’s another giant leak in the Gulf of Mexico blowing massive
amounts of oil into the Gulf of Mexico. On CNBC’s Fast Money, he says
he’d be surprised if BP lasted this summer, saying this is disaster is
entirely BP’s fault.”
As a prominent oil-industry insider, and one of the World’s leading
experts on peak oil, Simmons further warns that the US has only two
options, “let the well run dry (taking 30 years, and probably ruining
the Atlantic ocean) or nuking the well.”
Obama’s government, on the other hand, has stated that a nuclear option
for ending this catastrophe is not being discussed, but which brings him
into conflict with both Russian and American experts advocating such an
extreme measure before all is lost, and as we can read as reported by
Britain’s Telegraph News Service:
“The former Soviet Union (U.S.S.R.) used nuclear weapons on five
separate occasions between 1966 and 1981 to successfully cap blown-out
gas and oil surface wells (there was also one attempt that failed),
which have been documented in a U..S. Department of Energy report on the
U.S.S.R.’s peaceful uses of nuclear explosions.
Russia is now urging the United States to consider doing the same.
Komsomoloskaya Pravda, the best-selling Russian daily newspaper, asserts
that although based on Soviet experience there’s a one-in-five chance a
nuke might not seal the well, it’s “a gamble the Americans could
certainly risk.”
Reportedly, the U.S.S.R. developed special nuclear devices explicitly
for closing blown-out gas wells, theorizing that the blast from a
nuclear detonation would plug any hole within 25 to 50 meters, depending
on the device’s power. Much as I had idly imagined, massive explosions
can be employed to collapse a runaway well on itself, thus plugging, or
at least substantially stanching, the flow of oil..
“Seafloor nuclear detonation is starting to sound surprisingly feasible
and appropriate,” University of Texas at Austin mechanical engineer
Michael E. Webber is quoted observing, while Columbia University
visiting scholar on nuclear policy and former naval officer Christopher
Brownfield wrote in the Daily Beast: “We should have demolished this
well with explosives over a month ago. And yet we watch in excruciating
suspense while BP fumbles through plan after plan to recover its oil and
cover its asset.”
As to the reason for Obama’s government refusing to consider nuking this
oil well, Sagalevich states in this report that the American’s “main
concern” is not the environmental catastrophe this disaster is causing,
but rather what the impact of using a nuclear weapon to stop this leak
would have on the continued production of oil from the Gulf of Mexico,
and which in an energy starved World’s remains the Planet’s only oil
producing region able to increase its production.”
Source unknown and unconfirmed-
sitting on the tip of FL ping....break out the tinfoil or...maybe not?
Perspective:
Water in the Gulf: 660,000,000,000,000,000 gallons.
Oil in the Gulf: 126,000,000 gallons.
That comes out to about 5,000,000,000 gallons of water for each gallon of oil.
Or about 70,000 gallons of water per drop of oil.
I have to question this statement as well. "Large amounts" is not defined not even in PPM (parts per million), benzene is normal with crude oil, but methylene chloride is pretty unusual. The "EPA and others" means who, exactly?
I consider the source unnamed and unattributed, even if the EPA is mentioned, and they might have just commented about benzene.
The only thing I smell is propaganda.
Never let a crisis go to waste.
This is pure BS.
For the first 12 hours on June 24 (midnight to noon), approximately 7,215 barrels of oil were collected and approximately 4,040 barrels of oil and 27.2 million cubic feet of natural gas were flared.
Gives us some idea of the ratio of gas to liquids, but of course they are not collecting 100% of what is coming out of the well.
Very impressive! Thanks Smokin’ Joe.
Basically, I think you are seeing some really hysterical BS, here, trying to get people in a panic. The end result of that only pumps the ‘green’ agenda, cap and trade, and panic, which makes fertile ground for Socialist seeds.
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I completely agree!
I also find reports from Russia interesting, too...I’ve never been of the opinion they have our best interests in mind.
Shoot, BP is done for and Chavez nationalized American oil rigs in the last few days, a little more help from Obama and pals, the EPA etc— America should be on her knees pretty good.
I think they want us hysterical, so that we run to Big Gov’t to save us but it will be our cage, they will make us dependent and slaves.
The rich and powerful will oversee all the natural resources of this country and we will have just rolled over and given it to them.
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