Posted on 09/16/2010 7:05:56 AM PDT by stillafreemind
Although I would not mind seeing somebody duct-taping Nancy Pelosi to a chair and forcing her to watch all the Glen Beck shows from this whole year...
What is it that makes people think that a worthy cause is somehow more worthy if they resort to outrageous scare tactics to promote it? Yes, animal cruelty videos and kiddie porn exist but try casually finding them on the web. You can if you are determined enough but you have to go deep, deep underground to find it. It certainly isn't "right at your kids fingertips" A Google search for "crush videos" brings up thousands of hits for sites that want crush videos banned but not one hit for sites with the actual videos.
It's a given that no normal person wants to see animals tortured or have their children exposed to it. Over the top scare tactics will just have parents censoring their kids for no reason.
If you really want to do something to protect your kids block sites that have beheading videos. Those actually are literally at your kids fingertips, but apparently most humans aren't as cute as kittens.
Throughout human history there has always been “respectable” sex and then perversion. It seems somehow human nature demands perversion.
Naturally, then, as what society considers “respectable” sex becomes more perverted — i.e., is stripped of its dignity, private v. public nature, fidelity, personal emotional context, etc. — people go to more extremes to create and express perversion.
If what used to be shocking and disgusting no longer is, trust me, human nature will lead people to the next level and the next so as to continue to shock, disgust and degrade.
What happens, IMHO, is that people are so overwhelmed now with sexual information and imagery from an early age that what should and would have been arousing and erotic for them simply becomes nothing. (”BORRR-ing!”)
Yet people long for sexual arousal and stimulation — which is why there are pills to create this artificially.
But if nothing is a turn on, because everything has been in one’s face since practically childhood, those who feel they are numb in the face of normal sexual stimulation will keep going into perversion until something “works” for them.
This is how porn often draws an individual into worse and worse types of porn. Like drugs, the thrill wears off and more is needed.
Unfotunately, you don’t have to be a pornbot to be inundated with, basically, porn. Our kids often can’t help but grow up seeing mostly naked bodies on tv and the internet — just in ads, for Pete’s sake — and sexual activity and talk there and on tv and in movies.
A movie such as “The Incredible Hulk” throws in a sex scene, which starts the process of inuring 12-year-old boys to normal titillation. By the time they are in the 20’s, having seen so much of this everywhere in their daily lives, for many seeing people having sex is a minor curiousity or diversion.
No wonder some people become blase about what used to be wonderfully exciting to people.
The sexual revolution killed sex, real sex, I think.
Since kids see sexual activity in movies, etc. from an early age, “good old fashioned lovemaking” loses its appeal. Sad.
Just like if kids took drugs from an early age. A good proportion of them would eventually find the thrill was gone and gravitate toward stronger drugs.
Maybe so, I don’t know. All I know is, I don’t want people who think that’s sexy anywhere near me or mine.
Glad I’m not the only one who was dubious about this.
In all of the cases where I’ve heard of animal cruelty videos being posted to the Web, the perps were tracked down in hours or days. Kittens in particular would get the attention of Anonymous, and the /b/tards are VERY good at tracking animal abusers.
I disagree, although I do think the laws need to be more carefully written and judiciously enforced. First, animals are property, and a special kind of property...that's why "cattle rustling" penalties have historically been somewhat more severe than the theft of other items of like value.
I will agree that there's a psychiatric issue on the part of the perpetrator, but that's like saying that kleptomaniacs need treatment and not punishment. Where the laws need some deep introspection on the part of legislators is the intent; the concept of "depraved indifference" is generally already accepted in most legal systems and should be applied in cases of animal cruelty. A farmer that "puts down" a sick, aging dog, should not be held criminally liable provided he does so in a manner to minimize pain and suffering of the animal. They psychotic that beats his dog to a pulp with a baseball bat just to watch it bleed needs to be incarcerated, with any psychiatric treatment incidental to serving his term.
Hee hee... well, I might be able to get on board with that. ;)
People today just don’t seem to ‘parent’ anymore. They just spit them out and that’s that. My sister in law is a teacher and she says a bunch of the kids in her classes can’t read or write worth anything, can’t count proper or know the alphabet proper. I know when I went to school, at 5, I could count to 100, I knew my ABC’s and could write a little. My daughter was the same way. My husband and I took the time to read to her and show her how to use pencils and colors, etc.. You’d be amazed (in a bad way) how many parents think it’s the school’s responsibility to teach all that.
The only ‘sex’ I was ever exposed to growing up was seeing a boob in a movie, followed by a kissing scene. lol. I was about 8 and it was THE most shocking thing I’d ever seen. “They actually showed her BOOB, Mom!” (I was thinking she needed to put a shirt on lol) I can’t remember what movie it was, but it was a scary movie. When I grew up and realized what sex was and how everything went together, it was amazing to me, and still is. Much deviation from that and you lose me.lol
It’s like you said!
I know of a website that specializes in man's inhumanity to his fellow man, where they regularly post videos and pictures of beheadings, suicides, accidents and laugh at many of the victims. Someone posted a video (this was a few years ago) of a cat being tortured to death and what you described is exactly what happened. The admins turned the video in to the authorities and helped track the guy down. When he got arrested they posted it on the site and told the people that sickos like that would not be tolerated. Even twisted people who get their kicks laughing at the misfortune of others have limits. To think that there is some publicly available site kids can accidently get to on their way to Sesame Street and go watch animals being tortured is naive at best.
As ethereal as it seems, I do remember reading an article about how one specific child rapist was caught because the authorities were able to trace down the patterns on the bedspread, wallpaper and something else to a specific ROOM and timeframe at a Disneyland hotel in order to nail the SOB that destroyed a child’s innocence.
This *MAY* be apocryphal, though. There was a “journalist” intentionally posting child porn links on FR to attract the attention of the authorities at the time, and I may have the stories mixed.
AARGH!!
I forgot the “to discredit this and other sites” in my above post.
I know you can’t “fix” the problem, but maybe you can think of a repair? If not, no biggie, but I hate having half-thoughts out there...
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