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Selling Stupidity (Idiots listen to Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and Palin) [Another Doozy!]
Nolan Chart ^ | October 5, 2010 | Joel S. Hirschhorn

Posted on 10/05/2010 12:34:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They are the worst kind of idols, manipulating and soaking their audiences and admirers. They pitch poisonous and addicting fast food rhetoric, words as pleasing as salt, sugar and fat laden foods and as eagerly gulped down. This results in mental capacity becoming as clogged as the arteries in overweight and obese Americans.

In addition to his many other flaws, he's an absolutely horrible and childish writer.

I'll bet he drew sad faces and skull and crossbones around this for emphasis.

51 posted on 10/05/2010 1:02:14 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Selling Stupidity” ?!
You mean he got PAID to write this drivel?!
;)


52 posted on 10/05/2010 1:03:09 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There was an article around here last week by that Charles Blow, someone with that last name. Some NYT lefty person.

He was quoting that Pew poll. I believe he says the opposite of this moonbat.


53 posted on 10/05/2010 1:03:28 PM PDT by dforest
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To: a fool in paradise

He ripped off the Obama pic from AP and the left one was blatantly stolen from the film They Live IIRC (OBEY)
(1988; from IMDB.com: “Nada, a down-on-his-luck construction worker, discovers a pair of special sunglasses. Wearing them, he is able to see the world as it really is: people being bombarded by media and government with messages like “Stay Asleep”, “No Imagination”, “Submit to Authority”. Even scarier is that he is able to see that some usually normal-looking people are in fact ugly aliens in charge of the massive campaign to keep humans subdued. “_


54 posted on 10/05/2010 1:03:28 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

And much of Fairey’s other “artwork” is outright stolen from Nazi and Communist propagandists.

Much in line with his political ideology.


55 posted on 10/05/2010 1:04:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: NMEwithin
Huh? I would love to see the poll he is citing. I don't believe this at all

it's actually correct. What the demagogue left out is the fact that the % of clueless dems was 29%. Uber lib Charles. Recently wrote a NY times column lamenting just how damn stupid the Dem base is compared to the Republican base. He used these very numbers. (18% vs 29%) to make his point. This filthy liar seems not to have noticed the numbers about dems; and how it appears, by his own ligic, that the dem base is 61% dumber. Maybe they need Beck to educate them.

And is this fool really trying to make the point that your average Limbaugh listener is unlikely to know who controls congress? Who is it that is dumb?

56 posted on 10/05/2010 1:05:18 PM PDT by Minn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I call BS!! I love finding typos and grammatical errors in pious articles.

"Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient"

Why yes, I do find myself terribly informed as opposed to terribly uninformed. Now that I'm writing this, I'm doubting...I guess it could be either way.

57 posted on 10/05/2010 1:07:11 PM PDT by republicangel
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To: dblshot
yes.....he's a truther

from Wiki...Joel S. Hirschhorn (born 1939)...co-chair, Scholars for 9/11 Truth

58 posted on 10/05/2010 1:11:14 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: NEMDF
So if 18% of Republicans do not know that Democrats control the legislative houses, does that mean that 82% DO know that? How many dems know? Seems they don’t know or forgot who has controlled them for the past few years.

18% seems like a fair number. How many thousands of headlines have been written, CNN banners, and radio news highlights have been done for 'Republicans block (whatever liberal dumb-donkey idea they've got today)'? Or 'Republicans fail to defeat (whatever idiotic idea the donkeys pushed through this week)'

Come to think about it, if only 18% believe that Republicans are in charge, that totally blows out of the water the entire concept built into the Democrat defense this election cycle, that 'whatever it was that you wanted us to do that we didn't bother to get around to doing is all the Republicans fault' has only reached 18% of the population, which is a horrible number for such a long and drawn out campaign that started before Obama took office.

Only 18%.. That's pretty darn good.

59 posted on 10/05/2010 1:11:34 PM PDT by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people need idols.


60 posted on 10/05/2010 1:13:48 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looking up the author, I find:

http://www.delusionaldemocracy.com/

DELUSIONAL DEMOCRACY
Fixing the Republic Without Overthrowing the Government
Joel S. Hirschhorn

“Despite what false patriots tell us, we now have a delusional democracy, not one that citizens can trust to serve their interests. We clearly need a Second American Revolution.”

“Part 2 presents details about a number of practical solutions for fixing our republic peacefully - actions and techniques that have been proven to work in states or other countries. Are you willing to suffer some pain and see the truth? Or, like so many Americans, will you remain in a delusional state? This book will convince you that there is no hope as long as the two-party duopoly remains in control. More importantly, it will convince you that a new third party is more than necessary for salvaging American democracy - it is increasingly seen by Americans as the only hope for our future. Eligible voters who do not vote are not to be condemned - they are to be respected and motivated to vote by being offered a new, trustworthy alternative.”

About the author:
Joel S. Hirschhorn has been widely published; his previous book is Sprawl Kills - How Blandburbs Steal Your Time, Health and Money. He has published many articles and oped pieces in major newspapers (Washington Post, New York Times, Baltimore Sun, Chicago Tribune) and on progressive web sites such as CommonDreams, The Progress Report, SmirkingChimp and Opednews; Google Joel S. Hirschhorn to see his writings and achievements and see link below. Before becoming a writer and consultant, he was a senior staffer for the U.S. Congress (Office of Technology Assessment), Director of Environment, Energy and Natural Resources at the National Governors Association, a full professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, and head of an environmental consulting company. He is the Chair of the Independent Party of Maryland and co-founder of Friends of the Article V Convention

Delusional Democracy Does What No Other Book Has Done!

A number of electoral reforms are necessary to rescue American democracy:
1. Expand the use of Clean Money, Clean Election programs.
2. Provide a None of the Above option on ballots.
3. Permit fusion candidates to promote third-party candidates.
4. Reform the Electoral College or its use by states.
5. Provide Instant Runoff Voting.
6. Pass the “Our Democracy, Our Airwaves” federal law.
7. For primary elections, support an open or crossover primary that
favors third-parties.
8. Make voting compulsory after other reforms

“...It is Americans’ major opportunity for civic power through direct democracy. It comes down to ballots or bullets to save our democracy.”

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_joel_s___070108_open_letter_to_john_.htm
Open Letter to John Edwards

For OpEdNews: Joel S. Hirschhorn - Writer

To: Presidential Candidate John Edwards

Subject: Winning the presidency by defending OUR Constitution

I am intrigued by your clear populist and progressive orientation, particularly your focus on addressing economic inequality that is harming working- and middle-class Americans...


Between being on his knees giving a lewinsky to John Edwards’ “populist progressivism” and his writing for the Smirking Chimp, he’s going to have to make more waves in a different direction to persuade me his is NOT a liberal.


61 posted on 10/05/2010 1:14:28 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: IronJack

One thing I see missing in this article that Glenn Beck pleads for on a nearly daily basis, is the request that we not take his word for it.


62 posted on 10/05/2010 1:16:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Research has found Fox News butchers facts and its devotees are the most ignorant, and in recent years Republicans have overwhelmingly gone to Fox to get their news and information.

I don't go to Fox and I won't BE going to Fox. That said, I can also point out the outright fabrication of photos and documents and witnesses by the NY Times, Newsweek, Time, LA Times, CBS, Boston Globe, etc etc. (more lies by omission from this idiotorialist).

63 posted on 10/05/2010 1:17:48 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is another good example of liberal projection. To understand the psychic bedbugs nibbling at liberals, listen to them on the qualities they project onto conservatives. This was most obvious two years ago, when a liberal meme was that Sarah Palin attracted voters who were “poor, badly educated, and vulnerable to racial messages.” Libs were indeed describing a solid block of the 2008 electorate — but it was the black voters who supported Obama in the upper 90% ranges.


64 posted on 10/05/2010 1:18:07 PM PDT by Elwood P. Doud
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people need idols.

So who's your idol, Joel?

65 posted on 10/05/2010 1:19:05 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Note: 80 percent who regularly listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch Sean Hannity are conservative.

He's most disheartened by those liberals who tune into Rush Limbaugh and have their eyes opened to the lies they'd been told repeatedly by the Left and the dependencies they were being cajoled into demanding.

66 posted on 10/05/2010 1:19:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> I condemn both major political parties and see elections as useless anachronisms.

The most interesting sentence in that pathetic little tirade.

SnakeDoc


67 posted on 10/05/2010 1:21:34 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow." -- Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As an independent, I too am extremely critical of the political and economic system and how the middle class has been purposefully harmed by a rich and powerful Upper Class that has turned the nation into a plutocracy serving the greed of individuals and corporations.

Why is it these idiots never condemn billion dollar marxists like George Soros, Ted Kennedy, Bill Gates, et al or million dollar marxists like Michael Moore and the Hollywood Reds who insist that I am not paying enough in taxes?

If you want to talk about a privileged class, call out the pigs in Animal Farm. The new American Politburo who are exempted from Obamacare.

68 posted on 10/05/2010 1:22:03 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: JPG
Where to start?

How about starting with the fact that throughout the writer's long litany of malfeasance, he produces not one single objective (read: verifiable) example of his target's many sin's against the poor benighted masses who idolize them...not one.

69 posted on 10/05/2010 1:23:05 PM PDT by papertyger
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What was that:
A Resume for a job at MSNBC?


70 posted on 10/05/2010 1:23:06 PM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Meanwhile, a recent poll shows that 42% of dem voters don’t even know that the Dems control the House, and only 45% of black dem voters can name the VP of the US.


71 posted on 10/05/2010 1:24:17 PM PDT by Moby Grape (Formerly Impeach the Boy...name change necessary after the Marxist won)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When their supporters vote for Republicans they vote against their own economic interests...

Standard Democrat talking point and it has been very much the Party line since the 1990s when the Rats lost Congress to the Republicans. Echoed in 2004 when they again lost the White House to GW Bush.

The Rats "new" strategy in the wake of 2004 was to try to "appeal" to the "religious left" and close the "god gap" (the Rats terms, not mine).

So they stear around issues like abortion and homosexuality while insisting that it is Christian to support socialist agenda items like Obamacare.

72 posted on 10/05/2010 1:25:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If this person would make a spreadsheet of lies vs truth and compare their idols like obama, pelosi, reid, Schultz, Maher, etc to Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, Hannity, they would see that the conservatives deal in provable truth and facts, while their leftist losers deal in lies, inuendo and verbal attacks.

There...mystery solved.
73 posted on 10/05/2010 1:27:29 PM PDT by FrankR (You are only obligated to obama to the extent you accept his handouts.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN; 2ndDivisionVet
"Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people..."


74 posted on 10/05/2010 1:31:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: ozzymandus
He’s a leftie who claims to be “independent” because he’s too cowardly to admit he’s a leftist, but considers himself a genius and anybody who dares to disagree with him an idiot.

Either that, or he's a left of the dial Pacifica socialist who thinks that the Democrats are too right-wing...

75 posted on 10/05/2010 1:34:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
"Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people..."

Those are the people that listen to, and then beleive, MSNBC -- the new motto over there is Lean Forward -- And Cough.

76 posted on 10/05/2010 1:40:35 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Elitist is a good start, condescending is appropriate, but this asshat actually states that he is an “independent”. Not a chance. He's nothing more than an indoctrinated moron who only understands what he's told to understand, and I see no independent thought process nor intelligence involved with his rant.
77 posted on 10/05/2010 1:48:14 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Paladin2

“terribly informed”

This phrase can also mean extremely well informed, as opposed to not informed at all. It depends on the inference.

As in someone being ‘terribly good looking.’

Don’t think he meant that, but it depends on how you read it. Yutz.


78 posted on 10/05/2010 1:54:36 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: astyanax

Yep, and isn’t jealousy wonderful.
Oh, and did I miss it, or did he fail to include the results as to how many DEMOCRATS know that they the Dems control Congress or who the VP is? I bet the percentages of IGNORANCE is much, much higher. After all, they were all saying in 2008 before the election how the “Republican” Congress was screwing every up (present tense).

Oh, and duuude - Rush Limbaugh makes way, way WAY more than $60 million a year - that figure isn’t even close to the income he gets from his Rush 24/7 Website.

Why don’t you go back under your rock until it’s time for you to earn another 5 bucks to contaminate the interwebz with your ridiculous rantings.


79 posted on 10/05/2010 1:57:31 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Simply another ad hominem attack without a shred of counterargument.
80 posted on 10/05/2010 2:05:14 PM PDT by jtonn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shades of “Typhoid” Murray Rothbard, or Lew (sic) Rockwell.

The condescending intelligentsia of the LP were always pills - and not half as smart as they thought they were.


81 posted on 10/05/2010 2:17:03 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Ken522
His latest book is Delusional Democracy - Fixing the Republic Without Overthrowing the Government.

His book is ranked # 1,111,509 on Amazon.

Beck's "Arguing with Idiots" is # 1,556.

Rush's "The Way Things Ought To Be" (from 1993!) is # 282,252.

Jealous much?

82 posted on 10/05/2010 2:29:09 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Joined the Obama economy on 19 March, 2010.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author is obviously a poopy-pants and likely has cooties as well.


84 posted on 10/05/2010 6:21:40 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Wanna learn humility? Become a Pittsburgh Pirates fan!)
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To: Ken522
Joel's head of an environmental consulting company.

well that explains his rant.....he's going to loose alot of money invested in all the environmental scams...including Global Warming investments...if the Republicans win. Heck, China is claiming all the rights for that which runs the solar and wind junk they're pushing...so not only will we be held captive by the Middle East for Oil, but captive by China for powering our solar and wind equipment. This guy stands to loose money...huge amounts..as do all those in Washington and otherwise who have invested big in these environmental scams.

85 posted on 10/05/2010 9:06:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: a fool in paradise
A larger number of Democrats in 2008 were “unaware” that Congress (house and senate) was already being run by the Democrats.

And they still don't know it to this day.

86 posted on 10/05/2010 9:11:31 PM PDT by babyfreep
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Run-on name-calling with no substance or even any dispute with the core beliefs of the conservative personalities mentioned or those of their audiences and followers. I can call the guy who wrote this an idiot. There, see. I did it.

Anybody can call someone else an idiot. There’s nothing to it.


87 posted on 10/06/2010 8:21:52 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people need idols"

You mean those stupid people who picked an idol who needs a teleprompter to keep on track, who cannot pronounce corpsman, who visited 57 states in the USA,....... am I getting close?
88 posted on 10/07/2010 12:19:10 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I know I sound terribly condescending

He's a jackass.
89 posted on 10/07/2010 6:29:54 AM PDT by Canedawg (Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that have not wit enough to be honest.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is a pleasure to have contact with one so well informed about the “dark” side of society, those poor souls who listen to people like Limbaugh, Beck, Palin and the rest. After reading your rather lengthy post I simply chuckled. That there are idiots among us is certain, what is also certain is that you are one of them only more pompous.


90 posted on 11/27/2010 8:22:00 AM PST by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hirshorn writes: “Research has found Fox News butchers facts and its devotees are the most ignorant...”

Who conducted this research? Pew??? Yeah, I can trust that. I don't need a survey to know that the NY Times, Phila. Inquirer, CNN etc. butcher facts all the time. Further, anecdotal evidence has shown me that people who derive their news from such outlets are, for the most part, “ignorant.” They only know what the leftist press want them to know. Intellectually inquisitive they are not. They prefer belief-reinforcement.

91 posted on 01/06/2011 9:00:58 PM PST by NJ Bhoy
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