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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Big ideas but they would never work for Americans. Mogadishu Somalia in 93 was commanded by a frog general and all he did was get a bunch of rangers killed. He didn’t have a clue. Frog culture is good for frogs, not us. If it hadn’t been for the reaction of other Rangers and Marines with their choppers it would have been a lot worse. It does not seem to me that you have any military experience at all. There are a million jokes about the French military running away. They are well deserved. Can you name a successful campaign in the last hundred years that they were responsible for?
And now you want to make the most effective military in the world just like theirs.
Don’t think so.


26 posted on 01/07/2011 8:30:55 PM PST by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: oldenuff2no

The FFL has French officers, but is not part of the French Army.

Battle of Kolwezi (Operation Bonite)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kolwezi

Here is the bloody play by play:

http://www.globusz.com/ebooks/LuisSilva/00000019.htm

In any event, I cite the FFL mostly because it is the best modern example of a mercenary army. The nations of Europe used commercial armies for over a thousand years, as a much less expensive, yet effective, means of defense.

And yes, oldenuff2no, a know a great deal about military history and operations.

I would also point out that your example of the battle of Mogadishu is a poor one, because that was a French regular army officer directing regular US forces, who generally do not OPCON well to foreign leaders, sent on a mission without their requested heavy armor and other equipment, which was allowed to be compromised from the minute US forces set down on the beach. Mogadishu was a cluster.

An AFL, as private contractors, have no obligation to conduct operations in ways they do not choose, under leaders they do not want, and poor ROE.

I would also like to add that the contractors I have known were all former elite US military veterans, so if you assert that they would be incompetent, you also assert that the US military is incompetent.


30 posted on 01/08/2011 8:19:49 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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