[EDINVA]

Let me understand your position ... you say they are both telling the truth, so that means there was an original birth certificate on file at HI State Dept of Health in late July 2009, but it’s not there in early January, 2011?

Is the HI State Dept of Health that sloppy? Vital records, appropriately named, are critical and a major responsibility of the state agencies nationwide that are entrusted with them. How could they possibly have lost a 50 year old record in 1.5 years’ time? That is incredible incompetence, and heads should roll.

[curiosity]

Let me understand your position ... you say they are both telling the truth, so that means there was an original birth certificate on file at HI State Dept of Health in late July 2009, but it’s not there in early January, 2011?

It was there then, and it's there now. What makes you think it isn't?

[danamco]

Be careful, this person comes to the surface like a prairie dog and is a part time hired Holder brigade to report back, aka FINO!!!