Could you expand on that? First I've heard of either of those things.
Just a little bit, and you should go get the material yourself. Check on Helen Clark. Admittedly, this woman was/is certifiable in whatever setting we’re talking about. Then check NZ and Israel or Israelis. The look up that whole island community (sorry, forget its name - it’s some time ago) that had to be put under administration because of weird stuff.
NZ (officially) claims to support Israel. In practice, it’s more or less like, well....