[ml/nj]

From what I can see of them through digital images I would consider them to be "True and Correct Copy of the Original Record."

And from what I can see the Obama document purports to contain exactly the same data in the same format as the Nordyke BCs. Only the certification is different.

Note that I am not the creator of this morph. When I saw it, I saved a copy for myself. I tried to find the place on the internet from where I obtained it but was unable to do so.

Also note that this morph utilizes the AP image of Bamie BC II, rather than the one we usually discuss here which come from whitehouse.gov.

Finally I would point out that the supposed Obama form is not merely information transferred to a newer form. You can tell this from the 'M' in 'PM' where the time of birth is recorded. It is part of the printed form. This is how the forms were in 1961. They are not that way any longer.

None of this means that I think that the Obama form is legitimate. I think it is a forgery. But if I were wrong then this would be exactly the sort of document I would expect to see.

ML/NJ

[DiogenesLamp]

None of this means that I think that the Obama form is legitimate. I think it is a forgery. But if I were wrong then this would be exactly the sort of document I would expect to see.

It is also exactly the sort of document *I* would expect to see except for one glaring omission. The lack of this verbiage.

"A true and correct copy of the Original record..."

If that exact phrase (or a legally equivalent phrase) is not on the document, then as far as i'm concerned, someone is trying to play a game of some sort.

All you need to tell when a Hawaiian bureaucrat is deceiving, is to have them tell you that you don't need to see the original, you can take their word for what is on it. The "record" can be changed. The original cannot.