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The War Against Girls (Unintended Consequences of Abortion)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2011-06-18

Posted on 06/18/2011 2:26:32 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: Eaker
You are seeking discord where there is none. We are not writing a doctoral dissertation. I've done extensive readings in history ~ including hundreds and hundreds of books about the Middle Ages and the period of the Reformation and Counter Reformation. i have encountered the claim in more than one book.

As far as i'm concerned it has been claimed as fact and it's up to you to disprove it. Your pet beliefs about how neat the past must have been really aren't sufficient in this debate.

BTW, most of Martin Luther's nastiest statements have been so widely peddled that first graders can quote them. You really need to cut back on them.

BTW, I had ancestors on both sides in just about every major engagement in the French Religious Wars. All I can imagine is yours moved in from Italy after the tough fighting was over, am I right?

61 posted on 06/18/2011 6:53:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sayuncledave

Try the German language sites.


62 posted on 06/18/2011 6:55:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
As far as i'm concerned it has been claimed as fact and it's up to you to disprove it.

That is NOT the way it works. You asserted it, YOU back it up.

Here try this one. All former postal workers are gay.

Now YOU have to prove to me that they aren't.

63 posted on 06/18/2011 7:00:06 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, most of Martin Luther's nastiest statements have been so widely peddled that first graders can quote them. You really need to cut back on them.

This statement proves that you always post drunk. Only a drunk, an idiot or both would post something so stupid so pick one.

64 posted on 06/18/2011 7:02:50 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: muawiyah

“i have encountered the claim in more than one book.”

Name one book then. Just one that supports your odd claim.


65 posted on 06/18/2011 7:10:19 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, I had ancestors on both sides in just about every major engagement in the French Religious Wars. All I can imagine is yours moved in from Italy after the tough fighting was over, am I right?

No, I have never seen a single post of yours in which you were right.

My family has been in the United States since the 1700's. I take it your family, Cliff are French.

Dropped any guns lately while grabbing a white flag running away?

66 posted on 06/18/2011 7:12:54 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker
When my folks left France they were winning all over the place BIG TIME ~ that was circa 1580 or thereabouts.

So, just 1700's ~ "newbies".

67 posted on 06/18/2011 7:19:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sayuncledave

http://www.archive.org/stream/secrethistoryau02michgoog/secrethistoryau02michgoog_djvu.txt

search for “15th February, 1650”

This particular source list the authorization of two, not ten, wives, but there are other sources I’ve not made it all the way through yet.

Quote:

Even more, the Franconian Diet, with the ap-
proval of the Archbishops of Bamberg and Wurtzburg,
formed, on the 15th February, 1650, at Nuremberg, a le-
gislative decision which allowed priests to marry, and
authorised polygamy. I have the text of this singular
document before me, and will translate it, as a proof of
such importance as this must be communicated to the
reader in its entirety:

^* Art. 1. During an interval of ten years, reckoning
from this day, no man will be admitted into a monastery
who has not reached his sixtieth year.

^^ Art. 2. All priests and curates not belonging to a re-
ligious house or chapter, are bound to marry without
delay.

“Art. 3. Any man is allowed to marry two wives; but


68 posted on 06/18/2011 7:20:43 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Eaker
I don't deal with habitual tokers.

Bye.

70 posted on 06/18/2011 7:27:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“what people claim” isn’t factual but you repeat it as if it were, that’s called gossip and passing around urban legends.

Rather than simply apologizing for the error, you double down with bullshit.


71 posted on 06/18/2011 7:30:25 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("No clever arrangement of bad eggs ever made a good omelet." ~ C.S. Lewis)
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To: FourPeas; sayuncledave; Eaker
Excellent post ~ Nuremburg at that time must have had quite a reach to have the Bishop of Wurzburg going along with it.

There are variations on this that I've encountered in a number of history books that have bothered to deal with post-Westphalia Germany.

And, talking to older Germans about it (who had first-class private school educations) it's something either taught in school or discussed in school ~ even in Saxony.

I'm certainly not an expert on the matter ~ but we do have folks here who imagine that their inability to do research means something far more than that they don't know how to do research.

73 posted on 06/18/2011 7:38:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: narses

Hmm. “Supposedly”. My personal favorite among the weasel words.


74 posted on 06/18/2011 7:44:53 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Racist! is the new nigger.)
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To: Eaker

You are totally weird.


76 posted on 06/18/2011 7:50:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

No, I’m not.

Like a roach you don’t you don’t like the light shined on you. Like a liberal you can’t simply admit that you make stuff up. That you are a liar.

Pathetic really.


78 posted on 06/18/2011 8:03:50 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Eaker

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Rg/images/Ger_BMD_RefDoc_HandbookGermanResearch.pdf Tell it to the Mormons. They’re hot on this stuff eh!


79 posted on 06/18/2011 8:05:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Valpal1

Valpal1,

Give him a break. He isn’t smart enough to understand the common rules of debate.

Liars are like that.


80 posted on 06/18/2011 8:06:52 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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