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Rumor: Obama Will Endorse Same-Sex Marriage In Tuesday’s State Of The Union
The League of Ordinary Gentlemen ^ | January 20, 2012 | Elias Isquith

Posted on 01/20/2012 10:02:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

From Washington Blade:

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said on Friday he wouldn’t rule “in or out” the possibility of President Obama endorsing same-sex marriage in the upcoming State of the Union address.

Carney made the remarks on whether Obama would announce support for marriage equality during the State of the Union address, which is set to take place Tuesday before a joint session of Congress, in response to a question from the Washington Blade.

“I will not rule anything in or out,” Carney said. “I’m just not going to talk about — beyond pointing at his words — his personal views on this. I think his administration’s policies on related issues are there for people to judge.”

Most people of reasonable intelligence and common sense have long figured that the President’s declared ambivalence about gay marriage was a crock; and I think more than a few others were, like myself, of the opinion that he’d throw his weight behind SSM if he were lucky enough to get a second term. The assumption behind that supposition and that scenario is that there’s no upside to the President publicly endorsing the normative definition of marriage of his class, and that there was considerable downside in his doing so.

None other than Dan Savage himself explained why:

While national polls show a slim majority of Americans now support marriage equality, supporters of marriage equality aren’t evenly distributed throughout all 50 states. They’re over-represented in populous blue states that Obama is going to carry, under-represented in purple states that he needs to carry, and thin in the ground in red states that he has no hope of carrying. Electoral College Goddam. And maybe I’m a pessimist… but… I don’t think Obama endorsing marriage equality would convince any Republicans who support marriage equality (all six of them) to vote for him, I don’t think it by itself would convince independents to vote for him, and I think it would convince some conservative Democrats to vote against him.

What I think we’re all forgetting — or couldn’t have known all the way back in 2011, when Savage wrote the above — is that, in an almost deliciously ironic twist, Team Obama has decided to run in 2012 a base-centric campaign the likes of which we haven’t seen since… well, the last time an embattled and divisive President was going for reelection. And that’s pretty interesting in and of itself; it used to be the absolute most ironclad conventional wisdom of American politics that one could not win the White House unless one tilted (sometimes to the point of becoming horizontal) to the median voter.

But this country’s political system has changed dramatically in the past generation, and the mushy middle has increasingly receded as voters gravitated towards one ideological pole or another. In a more or less evenly-divided country, playing towards the base — implementing the Rovian 50%+1 strategy — makes a lot of sense. Still, we’re slow to recognize the kind of sociological change this would reflect, and generally we only see it for what it is after it’s long been standing in front of our noses.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 2012; bhofascism; bhosotu; corruption; democrats; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; liberals; moralabsolutes; nobama2012; obama; progressives; samesexmarriage; sotu
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The fact that the Washington Blade is accredited to the White House press office tells you all you really need to know about the Obama administration.
1 posted on 01/20/2012 10:02:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So Obama is FINALLY going to come out of the closet..about damn time..Its always been pretty obvious that Obama well, prefers the company of men


2 posted on 01/20/2012 10:06:09 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I imagine he would since he’s already in one.


3 posted on 01/20/2012 10:06:34 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More evil, evil, evil.


4 posted on 01/20/2012 10:07:57 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: chris37

I thought he already had.


5 posted on 01/20/2012 10:08:14 PM PST by gswilder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties;

for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions — everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses....

-Juvenal, Ancient Rome


6 posted on 01/20/2012 10:09:46 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No surprise here - Gays in the Military and refusing to defend DOMA, passed by previous Congress and signed previous President.

I BELIEVE ZERO CALLS IT "THE TRANSFORMATION OF AMERICA, DOING THE PEOPLE'S WORK" (you know the work the people's Representatives refuse to do!!!).
7 posted on 01/20/2012 10:10:13 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reggie must have finally proposed!


8 posted on 01/20/2012 10:10:26 PM PST by Smokeyblue (Obama's got NBC problems and birth certificate problems - a bad case of Cluster F**ked.)
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To: unkus

I’m sure all the unemployed welders, pipe-layers, electricians, engineers, heavy construction etc will be very pleased that gays are getting their every wish with zero and everybody else can bugger off if they don’t like his pipeline decision.


9 posted on 01/20/2012 10:12:25 PM PST by txhurl (WELL, Santorum? Still in it for yourself?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Well good grief he married a woman that looks more like a man than he does. Of course that’s his preference.

And this isn’t about getting more votes. It’s about getting all the homosexuals’ money for his campaign. When you’re making money, your AIDS drugs are heavily subsidized by far less risky breeder taxpayers, and don’t have a family that uses up your money, that’s a lot of moola moola to give to the guy who’s passing all the gay special protected class laws for ya.


10 posted on 01/20/2012 10:14:05 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is also going to admit his marriage is a sham and he is a homosexual.


11 posted on 01/20/2012 10:17:38 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: svcw
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12 posted on 01/20/2012 10:21:56 PM PST by One Name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go ahead.....Make everyone’s day.


13 posted on 01/20/2012 10:23:16 PM PST by o-n-money
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To: svcw
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14 posted on 01/20/2012 10:23:19 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will this help or hurt in the election? I can’t imagine it going over very well in middle America.

As for the cities where the gays live — they’re all Democrap strongholds anyhow.


15 posted on 01/20/2012 10:27:40 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: txhurl

I’m sure all the unemployed welders, pipe-layers, electricians, engineers, heavy construction etc will be very pleased that gays are getting their every wish with zero and everybody else can bugger off if they don’t like his pipeline decision.


It’s already being blamed on the republicans and most of the people you mention will go along with that.

We’re in a sick, upside down world where good is made to look bad and bad to look good.


16 posted on 01/20/2012 10:42:14 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’ll probably have 2 guys in a liplock sitting next to Moochelle in the gallery.


17 posted on 01/20/2012 10:55:30 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I’m announcing tonight, that Michelle has already approved our ‘open marriage’ ... Let the good times roll!”


18 posted on 01/20/2012 10:58:45 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So does this mean that Rupert Murdoch will order up a very special episode of “Glee”??


19 posted on 01/20/2012 11:02:31 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: dragonblustar
LMAO... I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!!

Groucho of Arabia....! hee hee....

20 posted on 01/20/2012 11:22:29 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will Larry Sinclair be an honored guest?


21 posted on 01/20/2012 11:22:40 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: unkus

I never realized how easy our country would fall.. We never learn from history or just common sense. Every culture that has embraced sodomy falls and common sense tells us that homosexual sex is not healthy...We are a stupid people!


22 posted on 01/20/2012 11:28:59 PM PST by scbison
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To: unkus

Isn’t it in Proverbs that wise will be considered fools and fools wise?


23 posted on 01/20/2012 11:30:45 PM PST by scbison
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To: scbison

One I like is II Timothy 3: 1-7


24 posted on 01/20/2012 11:42:31 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: scbison

We are a stupid people!


We were given a wonderful gift and we didn’t cradle and protect it. It was taken away by wickedness as we became complacent and smug..

I never thought I’d be saying these things. I sound like some old fogie. But I guess I am now. I simply love my country and am so sad at what’s happening.


25 posted on 01/20/2012 11:46:49 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know about same sex but Big Ears is married to a yeti’..


26 posted on 01/21/2012 12:07:12 AM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let him do it. It is political suicide!


27 posted on 01/21/2012 12:31:44 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I sooooooo hope he does!

He'll be done before the General Election even starts!

28 posted on 01/21/2012 12:41:47 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: Anti-Hillary

Let’s see if any elected officials in attendance have the moral indignation to walk out.


29 posted on 01/21/2012 2:12:41 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: scbison

We are an IMMORAL people.


30 posted on 01/21/2012 3:22:03 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: All

Is he coming out, as well?


31 posted on 01/21/2012 3:27:58 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: unkus

A-hole is just getting warmed up.

He will sign an executive order giving amnesty to all illegals before the end of his term. Especially if he loses in ‘12.

Just you watch.


32 posted on 01/21/2012 3:31:46 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What next; bestiality ?
33 posted on 01/21/2012 5:18:43 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Let’s see what Larry has to say about Hussein.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MceFVpJ-Gyc


34 posted on 01/21/2012 5:50:34 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Along with polygamy and polyandry.


35 posted on 01/21/2012 6:13:41 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: One Name

Interesting that the only pictures of BHO from his college years he is with some slimy looking guy and high.


36 posted on 01/21/2012 6:15:02 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: dragonblustar

When did BHO have time to study he was always high in his college age pictures.
He is a pig.


37 posted on 01/21/2012 6:15:53 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: svcw
Zer0 may come out for homo-marriage, but I don't think he will come out of the closet (barring some of his lovers going public). If, any of his lovers do go public the MSM will savage them unmercifully to protect Barry. The MSM are heavily invested in reelecting Barry. They did not vet him in 2008 and they want to cover-up their corruption by being Barry's chief supporters again.

It would be interesting to do a DNA testing of the Obama family to see whether the two girls are Barry and Moochie’s kids. If they're not, we would know Barry is dc-dc; if they are, then he's probably ac-dc (he swings both ways). This is just the kind of personality, combined with a sociopath narcissism, Americans do not need occupying the office of POTUS.

38 posted on 01/21/2012 6:19:53 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: svcw

That guy was a wealthy Pakistani who Obama lived off of. Look it up.


39 posted on 01/21/2012 6:21:32 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rumor: Obama Will Endorse Same-Sex Marriage In Tuesday’s State Of The Union

But...but...but.....didn't anyone tell Barry about the "truce" on social issues.......?

40 posted on 01/21/2012 6:30:16 AM PST by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: MasterGunner01

When you look at the girls the little one doesn’t look like either parent. The older one looks sorta like BHO. Its strange usually kids look like their parents.
Given the reports that Mickey is a hostile wife and spends little time with her “husband” just adds to the curiosity. When they are together, it just looks faked.
Even Bill and Hillary actually looked at each other and touched, they have a really weird marriage to be sure, people around them say they really do love each other.
People around BHO and Mickey never mention their marriage, I find that strange.


41 posted on 01/21/2012 6:37:54 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent - especially when it polls 65% against with the general public....
O’bummer, the gift that keeps on giving...


42 posted on 01/21/2012 6:55:44 AM PST by matginzac
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To: scbison

What’s this “we”, white man?


43 posted on 01/21/2012 6:58:22 AM PST by matginzac
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Excellent - especially when it polls 65% against with the general public....
O’bummer, the gift that keeps on giving...

At least 65%! This is a collosal mistake for Zobama and a windfall for the RePubs. The Repub PR machine ought to go something like:

He turned down the XL pipeline that would bring more oil independents to America and 100,000 jobs, but...

He is pushing for all those gay men and women to marry each other, unemployed or not.

44 posted on 01/21/2012 7:16:51 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

CBS has a video of the exchange, which shows Gingrich saying that if gay marriage is the only issue a voter cares about, they should support Obama.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7392399n


45 posted on 01/21/2012 7:25:44 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: VRW Conspirator

You’re right - it would make a great line of attack for the pub nominee...
But if history repeats, the Stooopid Party will just be as ineffective this round as they were in 2008...
my pessimistic side speaking this AM.


46 posted on 01/21/2012 7:25:59 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

A-hole is just getting warmed up.

He will sign an executive order giving amnesty to all illegals before the end of his term. Especially if he loses in ‘12.

Just you watch.


If he loses, the period between 11-6-12 and 1-20-13 will be extremely dangerous for what he does bit overtly and covertly.

He’s simply Evil and evil is as evil does. Forest Gump could figurte that out.


47 posted on 01/21/2012 7:35:48 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s right, you flap-eared, pencil-necked, mincing abomination....bring the wrath of God completely down on this country.


48 posted on 01/21/2012 8:09:54 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While national polls show a slim majority of Americans now support marriage equality, supporters of marriage equality aren’t evenly distributed throughout all 50 states.

Yes, California, the bluest of the blue states voted down gay marriage. Most Americans don't understand the issues and are confusing gay marriage with gay unions.

How nice of Obama to introduce a wedge issue which will keep on giving throughout he election. Gay marriage is a state issue that a president can do little about.

49 posted on 01/21/2012 9:07:59 AM PST by Mike Darancette (11/06/2012: Starts "Occupy the White House")
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To: Ronin; 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly. We all know that Maobama has lied from the beginning when he says he believes that marriage consists of a man and a woman. He only says so because he doesn’t want to lose any of the black churchgoers’ votes. So what does he stand to gain now by doing otherwise?


50 posted on 01/21/2012 9:08:49 AM PST by ReformationFan
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