Thanks, that’s very nice of you, but this entire issue goes further back than you could be aware of. Someone I will not name circulated via private mail, a number of items of research material that was to remain private. That person had offered to keep research results off site for safe-keeping.
Instead, the results were circulated (WITH MY SCREEN NAME STILL ATTACHED)to a ping list of over a hundred people. And the information those messages contained was used to denigrate me and the research group of nine freepers who remained nameless throughout and will continue to remain nameless.
When this rotten deed came to light, my original reaction was to close down the entire effort, and wipe all our results.
To be then told THIS IS OUR COUNTRY was the last straw.
Ultimately, maybe even unwisely, I decided to fight back. The material our group collected, much of which has not been published here, is in the safe hands of a number of people, AND WE ARE STILL ADDING TO IT.
So Seizethecarp and Hoosiermama, and LucyT, aside from the plain ridiculous charges against me that I am a subversive -there are NINE freepers whose names you will never know, who contributed. And THEY know how far off the truth of the matter you are.
But I am a ‘make lemonade’ sorta guy...the three of you have done more to draw attention to what is probably going on, than I ever could without you, so keep it up.
432 posted on Wednesday, 25 July 2012 9:21:43 AM by Fred Nerks
Please note, little jeremiah, your name appears only because it was to you that I replied, not that you were in any way implicated in what I had to say, and hoosiermama it would seem you may have had a change of heart, because you have been very polite to me of recent date. But regret fully, Seizethecarp seems to have swallowed the accusation that I AM A SPY with such zeal, it's quite breathtaking. And Philman, I really thought you had more sense, but the way you attacked me over the ridiculous images of the nude model showed me, you have the same bees in your bonnet that Seize has. I'll try to tell you again. Our research materials were compiled for the purpose of handing them over to someone who could access more searches than we could, our material could in no way be conclusive, WE PROVIDED LEADS that show a PI or a posse WHERE THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING. And as they do that, during which process we don't even expect them to contact us, there'll be NOTHING revealed here. Got that? So frikken BITE ME!
NOW WHY ON EARTH WOULDN'T WE TRUST YOU? I SUGGEST YOU ASK THE PERSON WHO SENT YOU THE PRIVATE MAIL THAT SET YOU OFF. IT'S BAD ENOUGH NEEDING TO KEEP SOURCE LINKS FROM THE PRYING EYES OF OBOTS - BUT TO BE DOUBLE CROSSED BY ONE OF YOUR OWN AND TOLD 'IT'S MY COUNTRY' THAT WAS TOO MUCH.
And now, you may carry on with your usual programming, because heaven help me, the one thing that stands out like a sore thumb is NEITHER OF YOU HAVE PROVIDED ANYTHING ORIGINAL, IT'S JUST GRIPE, WHINE, ACCUSE AND BELITTLE AS YOU GO. AND WHEN I DO TRY TO BRING SOMETHING NEW TO THE TABLE, I'M ACCUSED OF THREAD HIJACKING. NICE BUNCH YOU ARE.
Seize, get off my back, go away, do some research, bring back something interesting, your spittle and spite is dead BORING. You'll do yourself an injury, your hatred isn't healthy.
First...STOP YELLING! That's what "all caps" is...you yelling! I may be partially deaf, but I'm not blind.
Second...Nobody sent me any private mail that divulged anything and nobody's mail "set me off".
There have only been one or two times in my entire history here that I've ever revealed anything that was sent to me in mail and that was only to expose the denigrating thing that the retreaded troll had said in private. So you can BITE ME in that regard. I don't divulge squat if I'm asked not to.
I don't get a lot of mail to begin with so your assumption that I received something is BS. In case you didn't know I'm not exactly "liked" around here as I have a tendency to speak my mind no matter what and some people have an aversion to that so my "list of correspondents" is rather small. Except for alerts by LucyT and Brown Deer my mail is very limited. I predict that those may stop as well now.
Third...I've conceded that I understand the desire to keep the information obtained close to the vest.
All I'm asking is if the information is ever going to be released to the public! I don't give a flying "you know what" if I'm told beforehand or not. I don't care! The public deserves to eventually be told what was found, don't they? Or is it that it was all useless info after all?
I thought that asking such a thing was harmless and yet I see panties getting all bunched up over such a benign question.
And as time runs down it seems more and more likely that the information isn't going to be released to the public and that's a shame as none of the work that has been done will see the light of day. The objective was to prevent a second attempt at office for this man, wasn't it?
And Philman, I really thought you had more sense, but the way you attacked me over the ridiculous images of the nude model showed me...
You need to provide a link to that. I believe we disagreed on the picture of the two young boys.
And if you're so petty as to hold a grudge against someone for one disagreement then you're a pretty pathetic example of a human being.
The material our group collected, much of which has not been published here, is in the safe hands of a number of people...
What exactly do you mean by "much of which" (not "all of which") hasn't been published and it's not here?
(rhetorical and illustrative of how a curious mind might function so there is no need to actually answer)
Since something, judging by your words, is published then you're implying that it's available to the public. And if something is "published" where is it published? Is it in a book or magazine? Is it on a website?
I don't get it. Or are you using the wrong words to express your thoughts?
“But I am a ‘make lemonade’ sorta guy...the three of you have done more to draw attention to what is probably going on, than I ever could without you, so keep it up.”
Very well, then. Here is a cross-post of a Mal-Val “researcher” narrative subsidiary claim which is that not only was Stanley Ann never in HI before 1963, but she never graduated from or even attended Mercer High in 1960!
By removing Stanley Ann from their secret narrative it would seem that Barry is protected from exactly his most vulnerable point of exposure and that is “Where was Stanley Ann when he was born?” Intentionally or unwittingly, the Mal-Val narrative PROTECTS Barry from what the most competent credentialed forensic researchers have found which is that Stanley Ann graduated from Mercer in 1960, went to Hawaii to the U of Hawaii that fall and became impregnated by a man of African heritage and that she was in Seattle at the U of WA with baby Barry beginning in Sept. 1961. Period.
But I digress. Here is the Fred Nerks contribution to the Mal-Val “remove Stanley Ann as Barry’s mom” narrative”:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2908395/posts?q=1&;page=1445
To: bgill
I don’t know if you noticed, but the entire point of the exercise goes back to the very first group image I posted on this thread; I wanted to know if anyone else could see what we could see, that it was impossible to be certain that Stanley Ann Dunham actually did -
a. Attend Mercer Island High School
b. Graduate in 1960.
From what we can see, it’s possible she was there when she was 15, according to the image supplied by her good friend Maxine.
There are more images to come from screencaps when we can convert them to post here. It aint over until it’s over, stay tuned.
1,445 posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 2:30:48 AM by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
“Instead, the results were circulated (WITH MY SCREEN NAME STILL ATTACHED)to a ping list of over a hundred people. And the information those messages contained was used to denigrate me and the research group of nine freepers who remained nameless throughout and will continue to remain nameless.”
I am surprised to see you re-post this claim. I am on the LucyT ping list and I never saw “the results” you say were circulated.
I did, however, see you and David together reveal your claim that Valerie Sarruf was Barry’s mom, if that is part of what you call “the results”!
See:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2904263/replies?c=294
To: David
“...And, Lorice, as you say, first cousin to Faud, is first cousin once removed to Faud’s daughter Valerie; and is thus first counsin twice removed to Fauds grandson by daughter Valerie and we all know who he is.”
Look at this, I found an image of that Valerie, she played a part in a TV series named The Avengers in the UK in an episode from the 1962-1963 series:
The part she apparently played was Anna Rosas. If you click on that name on the page, it shows the photograph.
THE AVENGERS LINK
294 posted on 07/10/2012 3:14:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)