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Escape from California, FReeper advice sought on Wyoming
Vanity | 11/07/2012 | MarineBrat

Posted on 11/07/2012 12:35:53 PM PST by MarineBrat

I think I've had enough. I live in the most conservative stronghold of California, near FreeRepublic itself, but I've had it. I have long considered where I should take my skills, and Wyoming comes to mind. A very large state with the lowest population in the union. I see that Wyoming (69%R, 28%D) came in 2nd only to Utah (73%R, 25%D). Are there any Wyoming FReepers who can give me the lowdown on the state? All I require to make a living is a decent internet connection.

If I were to plan a driving vacation to Wyoming to get a look around, what are the cities I should consider? How does the tax situation there compare to places like Texas or Oklahoma?

Thanks for your time,

MarineBrat


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1 posted on 11/07/2012 12:35:58 PM PST by MarineBrat
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To: MarineBrat

Much of the state is federal land. Try Cheyenne or Casper.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 12:37:46 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: MarineBrat

As of last night the whole country’s California. There’s nowhere left to go.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 12:38:33 PM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: MarineBrat

Canada.

Its far more capitalist than the US will ever be again.

Slavery cant dominate their politics.

Lowest Corp Taxes.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 12:40:45 PM PST by NoLibZone (The DNC out bid us. We need to offer 1 acre in Manhattan and $500,000 cash for every vote.)
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To: MarineBrat

Consider Utah. I left CA for Southern Utah almost 10 years ago, and have not regretted it one bit, and I also need just an internet connection to work.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 12:41:47 PM PST by Pushead (The highways of history are strewn with the wreckage of the nations that forgot God.)
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To: MarineBrat

Wyo just passed an initiative that stops enforcement of Obamacare.

If you can handle the cold, you will be ok.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 12:41:47 PM PST by Fred (http://thebubblefilm.com/)
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To: MarineBrat

Wyo just passed an initiative that stops enforcement of Obamacare.

If you can handle the cold, you will be ok.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 12:42:06 PM PST by Fred (http://thebubblefilm.com/)
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To: MarineBrat

I’d like to ask other enterprising CA freepers how to stay in CA and not have your business affected by these taxes. What kinds of out of state businesses can be run from here?

My parents need me. My kids are entrenched. I cannot leave, and I just moved to the beach so I am happy here. The weather is perfect and I saw dolphins yesterday.

Those of us who are staying, what can we do? Besides learn Spanish.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 12:43:20 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: crusty old prospector

I love water so I’ll probably always be on the coast, but I’m also among the ‘just give me an internet connection so I can work’ people.

Wyoming to me is the most beautiful non-coastal state in the country. If it weren’t for the Maine coast, it’s where I’d go.

I really have nothing else to add - except that when I read your post I said “yep - I know just what he’s talking about’ ... it’s part of why I came to Maine from Massachusetts.

I totally encourage you to do it.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 12:43:22 PM PST by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: pgkdan
"As of last night the whole country’s California. There’s nowhere left to go."

Agreed. I live in Tennessee...Red State. But after the election, I feel like I live in a foreign country.....one that I don't even recognize. Imagine falling asleep just 25 years ago and waking up today. You'd have no idea where you were.

The rapid cultural and spiritual decline in this country is absolutely staggering. In my opinion, the decline cannot be reversed without the hand of God reversing it.
10 posted on 11/07/2012 12:44:19 PM PST by AdamBomb
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To: MarineBrat

a) The cost of living is quite high - the cost of food can be high. It has to be trucked in.

b) the state economy is tied to coal, CBM, oil and gas in the majority, and the ag sector, tourism and small business in the minority. When the oil/coal/gas prices are down, the state tax revenues fall off quickly.

c) The winters range from hard to “holy crap!” levels of hard. In the northwest area of the state, if you don’t know how to handle yourself in -20F temps with blowing snow, you might want to think very carefully before buying property there. In the southeast wind “triangle”) (Laramie, Casper and Cheyenne), the winds can and do regularly hit 60+MPH. I’ve driven through winds on the interstates in those areas where I’ve been driving into a 70+ MPH wind. I’ve seen semi trucks blown off the road. Between Cheyenne and Laramie, trains have been blown off the tracks. So if you’re thinking “Oh, pish-posh - wind... we’ve all lived in areas with breezes...” you’re completely missing the point. If you’ve lived in Florida and gone out walking as a hurricane is coming ashore, then you’ve seen this level of wind. The thing is - in Wyoming, we get these winds about every other week during the winters.

3. Cost of housing can be high in some areas.

4. Rock Springs has a for-real meth problem.

5. Taxes - no state income tax, sales taxes are relatively low. Real estate taxes vary all over the place.

6. Eastern side of the state can and does see tornadoes in the summer. Once you’re ... oh, about 50 miles east of Casper, and from Casper north to Montana... you’ll get some hellacious thunderstorms coming through in the summer. Very entertaining.

‘net service is all over the place, but expect outages. There’s not much redundancy in the ‘net in Wyoming, so when the usual outages happen... you can see large chunks of Wyoming go silent on the ‘net.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 12:44:25 PM PST by NVDave
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To: MarineBrat
There is no escape.

There is only the Union of Socialist States in America.

12 posted on 11/07/2012 12:44:46 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MarineBrat

no advice but want to tell you well done.

I got my wife out of liberal MA as we knew our votes were wasted, our tax money goes to liberal issues thus she moved and she said it was the best move she ever did.
We now live in a swing state knowing we are helping now.

Imagine if every conservative in the liberal states moved to swing states.
The liberal states would lose the tax money, millions move and the swing states become more conservative and push up the electoral count


13 posted on 11/07/2012 12:50:21 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: MarineBrat

Teton County has relatively high property taxes.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 12:52:21 PM PST by Paladin2 (.)
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To: MarineBrat

Wyoming is an awesome state with mostly awesome people. The major towns are cool. However, stay out of Jackson because of the damn CA liberals that have moved there and stay out of Rock Springs because it looks like the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 12:52:53 PM PST by ohioman
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To: AdamBomb

got the wife out of lberal MA and she said it was the best move she ever did.
We now live in one of the most republican counties in the swing state of FL called St John county which has St AUgustine.

I travel around this state and I am convinced as many others here are that there is no way obama won this state.
Picked my youngest up and talked to a bunch of parents, non party , one Dem and republicans and all said FL was going for Romney , even the Dem admitted she was surprised and yep she did not vote for obama but stayed at home

The results around don;t add up
VA, military was even split vote, after Libya, nearly 500 Generals and homosexuality and cross dressing and this was just in VA a swing state
OH saw 5% more union votes cast and yet voting is down and yet after this economy.
we all know about the problems so I;m not listing them all but something is not adding up with these results and whne you look by county and then add up and then hear millions did not vote.

something is strange


16 posted on 11/07/2012 12:59:45 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: AdamBomb

something is strange, lets not forget Walker won his election twice yet Ryan can not come close.
Grayson republican die got booted out but two years later he gets back in

No something is not adding up at all


17 posted on 11/07/2012 1:02:27 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: MarineBrat

I left the USA right after Clinton won in ‘93 and have not lived in the USA since.

I have done a number of things too, including Internet.

Lots of attractive places to live on this planet.

Our country is done.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 1:04:35 PM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: MarineBrat

I left the USA right after Clinton won in ‘93 and have not lived in the USA since.

I have done a number of things too, including Internet.

Lots of attractive places to live on this planet.

Our country is done.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 1:04:35 PM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: MarineBrat

I made the jump from CA in 2008. Went to CO. This is still a battleground state, but now leans left due to lack of solution on illegal immigration among other reasons. Still the people are friendly and good neighbors, outdoors and fitness minded, public schools good. Not as union dominated as CA.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 1:14:19 PM PST by cicero2k
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