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They Are Coming for Your Guns!
Gather ^ | April 20, 2013 | Lora Covrett

Posted on 04/20/2013 11:53:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like right-wing, anti-Obama rhetoric, doesn't it? In California, it is dangerously close to true. Thursday, the state legislature approved $24 million to expedite gun confiscation. They are coming for your guns! And if they show up at your door in California, without a search warrant, you still don't have much of a choice but to hand over the weapon. Does this sound like a violation of the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution?

This is a very slippery slope.

The text of the Fourth Amendment:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

SB-130 states that California's database, called Armed Prohibited Persons System (APPS), is crosschecked against the Department of Justice's Dealers' Record of Sale Special Account for people prohibited or soon-to-be prohibited from owning a handgun or assault weapon.

A "prohibited person" is one with a criminal conviction, an existing restraining order, or a mentally ill person. Hospitals and doctors report people determined to be a danger to themselves or others and/or those that consent to mental treatment....

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 4thamendment; banglist; california; democrats; fourthamendment; gunconfiscation; guncontrol; secondamendment
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To: chulaivn66

I think there are two practical reasons they don’t want to try a CC to obtain their goals. 1) They know full well the American people support the 2nd A. and a CC would fail miserably. 2) Changing the law through a CC would reaffirm the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land and that would negatively affect their overall goals.


41 posted on 04/20/2013 3:25:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Safrguns
Being passive, and not taking their bait is two different things.

Absolutely. I am saying the same thing even if it is put in a somewhat different way.

42 posted on 04/20/2013 3:28:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They do that in MA. all the time.


43 posted on 04/20/2013 3:32:11 PM PDT by freedomtrail (EEOC- Eventual Elimination Of Caucasians)
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To: Safrguns

I equate the law to the clenching of the fist. It is a warning of impending enforcement. Cocking the arm and swinging is the assault, or enforcement, if you wish.

I would not presume your position as being one of passivity. You and I are on the same plane, merely struggling over semantics in the expression of our thoughts. We are both conversing at Free Republic and I will submit my remarks to you on that basis. You’re welcome in my two-man fighting hole when it comes to that.


44 posted on 04/20/2013 3:33:55 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: Paisan

thing is if federal law goes, if your state constitution or laws has it, you’ve still got it legally recognized, so that’s why many states included the same language of the federal constitution in their state constitutions.


45 posted on 04/20/2013 4:48:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Yes, very lose term, anyone whom the state sees as an enemy could be placed on the list. Too bad the majority will see this law as just plain ole common sense.
46 posted on 04/20/2013 7:19:05 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Paisan
I side with the original finding by the cops - even a convicted felon should be able to defend himself. I may get flamed, but having the ability to defend yourself is God given right that should not be infringed.

Agreed. Anyone who cannot be trusted with a weapon should not be running around loose.

47 posted on 04/21/2013 10:54:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Robert357
But or Attorney General is trying to change that so "legal aliens" can buy firearms more quickly.

That's so legal Muslims can defend themselves when we finally wake up.

48 posted on 04/21/2013 12:14:39 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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