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Hydrobetatron.org Launches — Open Source LENR Project
ECat World ^ | June 18, 2013 | admin

Posted on 06/19/2013 9:14:01 PM PDT by Kevmo

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1 posted on 06/19/2013 9:14:01 PM PDT by Kevmo
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles


http://lenr-canr.org/


2 posted on 06/19/2013 9:15:56 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles


http://lenr-canr.org/


3 posted on 06/19/2013 9:17:14 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Rossi, if he really did develop this tech, has some of the worst business and legal advisors on the planet. Why? Because good ones would have (1) gotten this tech disseminated to the universe, all details of it, and (2) made him a gazillionaire in the process who could buy and sell Bill Gates with pocket change.

It just isn’t that hard.

Hey Rossi, if you lurk, PM me. Not kidding. You’re about to fail yet again. Epically.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 9:21:16 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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Oh and a follow up: I’m not kidding. That said, Rossi either is a complete fraud or he really does have the worst business and legal advisors on the planet. At this point, I predict #1. But that says nothing about LENR in general.


5 posted on 06/19/2013 9:27:24 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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This article isn’t about Rossi.

Bill Gates had his IP stolen by hobbyists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists

The forces aligned against this technology make those hobbyists look like girl scouts.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 9:29:21 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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Correct, it isn’t directly about Rossi. But it is about the tech Rossi alleges to have developed.


7 posted on 06/19/2013 9:42:36 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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Mr. Fusion is a WAY more viable technology than the Hydrobetatron.


8 posted on 06/19/2013 10:01:24 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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But it is about the tech Rossi alleges to have developed.
***Is that so? How do you figure? LENR was around before Rossi showed up.


9 posted on 06/19/2013 10:10:03 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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This is great, let the crowd sourcing research go on!!

We shall soon find out if this is a fraud or not.


10 posted on 06/19/2013 10:22:33 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Kevmo

True that. But he alleges to have developed the first commercially viable large scale implementation. Tired of this convo. If you don’t understand the impact Rossi has had on this tech and its credibility in many circles, mostly bad but some good in terms of exposure, there is no point to it.


11 posted on 06/19/2013 10:40:27 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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True that.
***Then your entire point is rendered moot by your own admission.

But he alleges to have developed the first commercially viable large scale implementation.
***Then take it up on a Rossi thread.

Tired of this convo.
***Again. This thread is not about Rossi.

If you don’t understand the impact Rossi has had on this tech and its credibility in many circles, mostly bad but some good in terms of exposure, there is no point to it.
***Then, again: your own point is rendered moot. Before Rossi, 90% of the LENR research was in Palladium/Deuterium, now most of it is in Nickel/Hydrogen. It would appear that you don’t understand that impact.


12 posted on 06/19/2013 11:09:26 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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Four words............... “Rube Goldberg”.. “Perpetual Motion”..
There just may MORE than one sucker born every minute..

There really is no FREE LUNCH.. unless you find a sucker..


13 posted on 06/20/2013 12:23:25 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Um, this one statement makes my point:

Then, again: your own point is rendered moot. Before Rossi, 90% of the LENR research was in Palladium/Deuterium, now most of it is in Nickel/Hydrogen. It would appear that you don’t understand that impact.

Seriously, an article about open source research re: LENR involving Nickel/Hydrogen has nothing to do with Rossi when, as you stated, "Before Rossi, 90% of the LENR research was in Palladium/Deuterium, now most of it is in Nickel/Hydrogen"?! Believe it or not, we're on the same side. For some reason, though, you got upset when I brought up Rossi's (good? bad? dunno) influence on this research. I think you must have misinterpreted something I said.

14 posted on 06/20/2013 12:30:37 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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the salvation of the planet Earth

A lofty goal!

15 posted on 06/20/2013 2:15:40 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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"But it is about the tech Rossi alleges to have developed.

Actually not. This technique, although LENR related, has pretty much nothing in common with Rossi's devices.

16 posted on 06/20/2013 6:31:06 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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"For some reason, though, you got upset when I brought up Rossi's (good? bad? dunno) influence on this research. I think you must have misinterpreted something I said."

Do you think it just might be because he sees through your blatant effort to highjack the thread into being "all about Rossi" instead of the technique posted??

17 posted on 06/20/2013 6:33:57 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: hosepipe

Technically, Rube Goldberg machines DO (or at least CAN) work, so they don’t apply here...


18 posted on 06/20/2013 6:38:01 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: hosepipe
"Four words............... “Rube Goldberg”.. “Perpetual Motion”.."

None of which apply to LENR. Well, maybe the Rube Goldberg, in the sense that any lab research rig eventually ends up looking like an RG setup.

"There just may MORE than one sucker born every minute..here really is no FREE LUNCH.. unless you find a sucker.."

Again, doesn't apply to LENR. "Maybe" applies to Rossi, but certainly not to the other researchers in the field of LENR. THE single proven instance of fraud in LENR research (fraud by Rossi is suspected, not proved) was perpetrated by an unknown party in the MIT physics department who CHANGED THE REPORTED DATA of their "CF Debunking experiment" to show no excess heat, when in fact the full data set "does" show excess heat.

19 posted on 06/20/2013 6:41:16 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: hosepipe

Please,then, by all means explain how this effect has been replicated 14,700 times.


20 posted on 06/20/2013 9:18:46 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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