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Two things: if he's a liar, then why the difficulty in refuting the lies? And, if your typical "birther" (only using the term for lack of a better one) cannot meet citations with citations, and instead yammers about "lies" and "agendas," then birthers are in sorry shape indeed.

Oh dear, look at me, I guess I have an agenda now.

You jump in and prove your namesake ... the poster has been posting his crap for weeks at FR and being refuted time and again. Now you’re going to demand, as he/she/it does when called for what he/she/it is that the spam he’s posted be reposted with the refutations. HAH! Nice try though ... did you know that the writers of the Constitution included the specific grandfather clause regarding citizenship and holding office for those residents before the Independence not for the reason found enumerated in the Federalist Papers? Well little Jeffy liar tells you and I expect you believe the deceptions ... but why?

Two things: if he's a liar, then why the difficulty in refuting the lies? And, if your typical "birther" (only using the term for lack of a better one) cannot meet citations with citations, and instead yammers about "lies" and "agendas," then birthers are in sorry shape indeed.

You must be new here. After the first few hundred times we matched citations, it became apparent that it was a waste of time. We realized that it doesn't matter what you show him, he'll just ignore it and keep on spouting his crap.

This is the Kook world according to Jeff: "American Citizenship law is based on BRITISH MONARCHY LAW of SUBJECTUDE!"

Here it is explained succinctly by Sir Michael Foster.

"Sect. 1. With regard to Natural-born Subjects there can be no Doubt. They owe Allegiance to the Crown at all Times and in all Places. This is what We call Natural Allegiance, in Contradistinction to that which is Local. The Duty of Allegiance, whether Natural or Local, is founded in the Relation the Person standeth in to the Crown, and in the Privileges He deriveth from that Relation. Local Allegiance is founded in the Protection a Foreigner enjoyeth for his Person, his Family or Effects during his Residence here; and it Ceaseth whenever He withdraweth with his Family and Effects. Natural Allegiance is founded in the Relation every Man standeth in to the Crown considered as the Head of that Society whereof He is born a Member; and on the peculiar Privileges He deriveth from that Relation, which are with great Propriety called his Birthright. This Birthright nothing but his own Demerit can deprive Him of; it is Indefeasible and perpetual. And consequently the Duty of Allegiance which ariseth out of it, and is inseperably Connected with it, is in Consideration of Law likewise Unalienable and Perpetual.

Yeah, the idiot thinks American laws are based on THAT type of "Natural born" law. That it is a complete contradiction to American Independence is simply beyond his grasp.

But if you really want a citation, how about this one?

It comes from this book.

Jeff will say that it is NOT the opinion of the Supreme court of Pennsylvania, it is the work of just one obscure no nothing judge from some backwater in rural Pennsylvania.

Jeff is a liar and a fool.