[Pan_Yan]

Todashev was shot eighteen times and killed when he allegedly lunged at the officers.

Several years ago the Egyptians were interrogating a member of the Muslim Brotherhood (IIRC). He committed suicide by repeatedly ramming his head into the wall. They tried to stop him. Very sad.

[lbryce]

Yeah. Still upset about it. Do you know how much walls go for in Egypt? Construction material is very expensive.