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America's Delusional Elite is Done
The American Mind ^ | 10/22/19 | Bronze Age Pervert

Posted on 10/26/2019 10:42:14 AM PDT by jocon307

I want to thank Claremont for the opportunity to reply to Michael Anton’s review of my book Bronze Age Mindset. Since at least 2015—but in fact from before Trump ever came along—there has been a tremendous intellectual disturbance or ferment online...that has escaped the notice or surveillance of the mainstream media, the literary and pundit-political establishment, and all those who imagine themselves gatekeepers of public taste and opinion. Trump’s campaign beginning in 2015 brought this countercultural phenomenon to view of the authorities, who have been struggling to understand it and contain it ever since.

What are the “crazy Pepe frog people” online all about? The terms “altright” and “altleft” have been designed as catch-all categories to describe what is going on, but they’re misleading. There have been a few inadequate attempts to understand this phenomenon before Anton’s article: for example Angela Nagle’s book Kill All Normies, or a few articles by lesser-known journalists. But Anton’s review of my book is the first big attempt, as far as I’m aware, to really try to understand what’s going on from a sympathetic point of view; which is to say, non-polemically and without the ulterior intention of getting us censored or of bringing the weight of the national security establishment on our backs. I think Anton, whatever our disagreements—and they seem to be considerable—must be praised for realizing that the phenomenon in question isn’t going away and cannot simply be suppressed, but must be understood.

What you are witnessing, I would like to tell the readers of Claremont, is the unraveling of the postwar American regime—or what is mendaciously called by its toadies the “liberal world order”—in a way that is far more thorough than the disturbances of the 1960’s, and with consequences that will be far more dire.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanmind.org ...


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I am not well versed in this subject, but I feel like this is an important article. I believe I read Anton's review of the book in question "Bronze Age Mindset" but I have not read the book. Now I will for sure. (Brief elipsis in the excerpt to comply with length requirement.)
1 posted on 10/26/2019 10:42:14 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Thanks. You should check out Pompeo’s talk at Claremont.

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2 posted on 10/26/2019 10:44:51 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: jocon307
The ANTI-American Delusional Lying Left Elite is Done

Fixed the headline and, oh, I hope this is right.

With the help of the Divine Providence of God Almighty, we, like our Founders, will win against the totalitarian tyrants, and in our case RECOVER our beloved Free Constitutional Republic for yet a little while.

3 posted on 10/26/2019 10:48:25 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: jocon307
America's Delusional Elite is Done

Yeah, ... if they go down hard, otherwise they'll be back.

4 posted on 10/26/2019 10:50:38 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: jocon307

Marking.


5 posted on 10/26/2019 10:56:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Lurker

Thanks Lurker, I’ll look for that.


6 posted on 10/26/2019 10:57:36 AM PDT by jocon307
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THE issue in America is REINSTATING THE CONSTITUTION AS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

THAT would mean dismantling 80%+ of the Totalitarian Federal Government in recovering our Free Constitutional Republic (codified DECENTRALIZED power as a matter of law).

Only with the help of the Divine Providence of God Almighty will we, as did our Founders of old, be able to overcome the enemy (The Left, entrenched in the $4 trillion Federal Government (the “Swamp”, the “Deep State”)) and win.


7 posted on 10/26/2019 11:04:00 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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We should always keep in mind something Solzhenitsyn said post-1917. He said they thought they knew who the good guys and the bad guys were. They realized after the fact they were wrong.


8 posted on 10/26/2019 11:05:54 AM PDT by lurk
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To: jocon307

Thanks for posting. Very good. HOORAY Bronze Age Pervert


9 posted on 10/26/2019 11:06:19 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: jocon307

10 posted on 10/26/2019 11:07:30 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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The Normies’ Creed, in a nutshell.


11 posted on 10/26/2019 11:17:32 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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Bronze Age Mindset is, so far as I can tall (disclaimer - I haven't finished it yet) precisely what the author claims: an entertainment, not a manifesto, a descriptive rather than a normative model. Its principal subject is: where is this resistance coming from? Whether it is an artifact of our times or an innate characteristic of the human spirit seems to be an open question.

If we listen to the rhetoric of the left, we can only guess that further restrictions of speech and life, both de facto and de jure, are coming. What is the conservative plan to deal with any of this? The “youth”—but not only the youth, and certainly not only the white youth, although they are the most affected—has seen only capitulation from the conservative establishment, or otherwise outright collaboration.

How often have we heard this complaint on FR? The appellation "CTRL-Left" was well given, and totalitarianism has sprouted there like mushrooms after a rain. But there is a "CTRL-Right" as well, our GOPe, our establishment, and they like Trump (among other outliers) just as little as their Stalinist counterparts do. These are Orwell's pigs who walk on two legs, and we'd best not look that direction for liberation.

The author points out that it isn't entirely generational - quite a lot of us old farts got Pepe long before the Kool Kidz on the Left, who never will. It is, however, raging on the Internet, looking strangely familiar underneath because it is about freedom versus control as it has been long before the Bronze Age, when the Internet consisted of clay tablets fired in the ruins of the buildings that burned down around them. The ending was frequently not a happy one but somehow, freedom survives.

12 posted on 10/26/2019 11:21:27 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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RE “You created us”

And every day, with each passing outrage and attempt at further subversion, you just harden our resolve to NOT let you get away with it.

We cannot coexist with psychopaths. And there WILL be a break point and a reckoning.

Pretty simple equation: when you continually mess with a people motivated and determined to defend their freedom and their way of life, don’t be surprised when the outcome isn’t pretty.

The left needs to understand that.


13 posted on 10/26/2019 11:26:37 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Dick Bachert

That is great, and I never saw it before!


14 posted on 10/26/2019 11:52:17 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: lurk

“They realized after the fact they were wrong.”

Yep, sometimes that happens.


15 posted on 10/26/2019 11:53:10 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Billthedrill

It’s fascinating. The original review is the first time I’ve heard of this book.


16 posted on 10/26/2019 11:54:20 AM PDT by jocon307
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And there WILL be a break point and a reckoning.

True - but it would be better if we didn't let things escalate until they reached the "breaking-point" and we "go nuclear."

A little more fortitude and resistance now is in order.

Regards,

17 posted on 10/26/2019 12:01:01 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: jocon307

Interesting piece.

It seems the author counts himself in a large group of disaffected people, mostly youth. The only thing these people appear to have in common with each other is opposition to the present regime. It is a loose alliance of strange bedfellows. What they would put in place of the current regime is not defined, because, if it were, they would be fighting among themselves.

I understand the aggravation with the current insanity of the Left and the anti-Trump right. But once the dogs of war (or revolution) are released, there is no telling what subset of the revolutionary forces will prevail.

I know the author has not discussed revolution, but where else does he think this pent-up rage is heading?


18 posted on 10/26/2019 12:26:53 PM PDT by Rocky
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I think it’s wounded but it’s not dead yet. It still controls the media, education system and Hollywood. Even with all they control they are still losing because they are enormous losers. They are basically destroying themselves with their stupid actions and words. We could put a spike through its black heart if we can stop them from poisoning the minds of young people.


19 posted on 10/26/2019 12:32:32 PM PDT by Rdct29 (Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
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We could put a spike through its black heart if we can stop them from poisoning the minds of young people.

They have already poisoned the minds of young people
in order to put a stake through freedom’s heart.
It will be too late when the youth realize that it’s
a stake through their hearts as well.

Still, this might be the answer as there is no zealot
like one betrayed by their own hubris.


20 posted on 10/26/2019 12:43:13 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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