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To: Chode

How does that work?

First a permit to carry, then a license to conceal it?

How hard is it to get a permit to merely carry, without concealing?


6 posted on 06/23/2022 2:38:35 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

In NYork, impossible. Unless you are elite, celebrity, or politico — or any of the guards they hire to protect them in the ‘Ellhole that is NY.

What caused this was a phrase “may permit” in the law — as in when we bloody well feel like it (or you give us $$) we may give you a permit to carry. My understanding is that a dude in NYC wanted to take his gun to a shooting range. But, it is illegal in NYC to take a gun out of your house unless you have a carry permit — see previous.
He recognized this as asinine and sued.
So, instead of having the opportunity to give permits out to folks who might actually need it, NY (& the other 5 or so states) may now not deny a permit to any US citizen to “bear arms” (as noted in BORights).
The states just got screwed.
Ha ha ha.


8 posted on 06/23/2022 3:00:12 PM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: one guy in new jersey

there are two kinds of permit in NY, on premises and concealed

if i read this right, this says if you have an on premises permit, it’s now a carry permit

i’ve had one for 46yrs


15 posted on 06/23/2022 3:48:20 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: one guy in new jersey
"How does that work? First a permit to carry, then a license to conceal it? How hard is it to get a permit to merely carry, without concealing?"

As a former New Yorker, WOW!!!!

"First a permit to carry, then a license to conceal it?" ANSWER, The permit is to allow the Purchase & Ownership, and to Carry." (2022 "Carry" word of the day, 1776 "To Bear, i.e. have on your possession.")

Cliff NOTE{s} New York Requirements (if I miss some, it's because I left that hell hole almost 50 yr's ago.) Metal Evaluation by a shrink, testimony by a couple of witness that your of good moral whatever, and of course the background check from hell, your bank accounts, etc.

By the way HAPPY BIRTHDAY June 23rd, USSC Associate Justice Clarence Thomas. What a way to give yourself a present. (born June 23rd, 1948)

31 posted on 06/23/2022 8:44:13 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's lie, only while testifying, as taught in their respected Police Academy(s). )
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