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To: algore

How is suicide a factor in why people should be disarmed?
I’m sorry if somebody is hurting enough to off themselves, but how does it keep them safe by disarming me?

Most liberals somehow see death by gun as worse than death by other methods, including jumping in front of a vehicle.


5 posted on 10/17/2023 7:41:44 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It never rains in sunny Alberta. It always rains in rainy Alberta.)
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To: Jonty30

They use suicide by gun in gun violence statistics. Not really fair. Given a choice in a suicidal person, a gun is likely an easy and effective option. If no gun....seems like there are plenty of other options.

Methods of Suicide: Suffocation (strangulation and hanging). Jumping from height. Drowning. Poisoning. Drug overdose. Carbon monoxide. Gas-oven. Shooting. Cutting and stabbing. Starvation and dehydration. Collision with or of a vehicle. Electrocution. Hypothermia.

• Using data from the 2017-2019 National Violent Death Reporting System, in all age groups, 55% of men and 30% of women used firearms; 28% of men and 29% of women hanging/suffocation; 9% of men and 32% of women poisoning, and 8% of men and 9% of women “other” methods (Front. Public Health. 2022;10 DOI:10.3389/fpubh.2022.955008). “The findings call for the following suicide prevention strategies: (1) restricted access to firearms; (2) improved access to mental health/substance use treatment; (3) improved long-term and palliative care services for those (mostly older adults) with physical health problems; (4) financial/housing support policies to mitigate economic hardship; and (5) more research to identify effective strategies to curtail the increasing use of firearm and hanging/suffocation among young and middle-aged adults.”
• There is data that shows access to guns increases the risk of suicide by gun. But a looking at World Health Organization data indicates that the United States falls more or less in the middle of the pack for both male and female suicides, with 17.7 male deaths (38th-most among 105 countries) and 4.5 female deaths (40th) per 100,000 people (the transnational statistics are drawn from varying years)(https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/03/how-does-americas-suicide-rate-compare-globally/#:~:text=But%20a%20look%20at%20World,are%20drawn%20from%20varying%20years).


12 posted on 10/17/2023 8:02:56 PM PDT by consult
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To: Jonty30
Most liberals somehow see death by gun as worse than death by other methods, including jumping in front of a vehicle.

Or driving in front of a truck to save your children from showers with Ol' Rumpleforeskin...

16 posted on 10/17/2023 8:13:11 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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