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To: jim35
It isn't apples and oranges. Alchemy and astrology are pseudosciences, just like "scientific creationism"/"intelligent design theory".
15 posted on 08/28/2002 10:13:24 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
Alchemy is disprovable, astrology is a religion, so you're half right. Intelligent design is as provable as evolution based on what data we have. You found old bones, so we're descended from apes? Prove it. The point is, you can't. There are cogent arguements for creationism, using logic and deduction, which is a basis for many of our sciences that explore things which can't be seen or touched. You either believe in a great coincidence accidentally causing all of the wonders of the universe, or you believe these things were created. What is that special thing that makes you a thinking being? A big collection of matter and chemical reactions? Put everything you're made of in a bag, and see if it starts to walk and talk. Or evolve.
38 posted on 08/28/2002 10:32:00 AM PDT by jim35
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To: Dimensio
"It isn't apples and oranges. Alchemy and astrology are pseudosciences, just like "scientific creationism"/"intelligent design theory".

Just curious if you have read Dempski's "Intelligent Design"? I think if you had you would not be making the statement you did. Dempski's arguements stand up to critical, logical, and scientific reasoning. They don't take a professing Christian to accept. Just someone who hasn't closed off all possibilites in their mind.

Semper Fi

160 posted on 08/28/2002 11:49:46 AM PDT by dd5339
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To: Dimensio
Actually it's still apples and oranges. Alchemy and astrology have been succinctly dismissed. Chemistry and physics are pretty concrete (especially chemistry...physics is delving too much into quantum theory and 26-dimensional stuff to be on the same level as chemistry). Evolution is still purely a theory, and one that is controversial, somewhat new (as opposed to say, chemical equations for water and carbon dioxide), and under discussion. Not saying creationism is true, but when you are merely discussing theories, I think there's nothing wrong or unscientific about devoting a page in the textbook or the first 20 minutes of the lessons on evolutionary theory to alternate theories.

Merely talking about them does not equate with endorsement. Methinks the evolutionists just don't want a theory they don't like to be discussed. And IMO, it's because of the religious nature of it.
309 posted on 08/28/2002 3:38:57 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Dimensio
Alchemy and astrology are pseudosciences, just like "scientific creationism"/"intelligent design theory".

Nonsense. Intelligent design has been fully shown to be correct by the last 150 years of scientific discoveries. It is evolution which has been discredited at every turn. The very complexity which Darwin admitted would falsify his theory has been shown to be the case in discovery after discovery.

353 posted on 08/28/2002 5:35:07 PM PDT by gore3000
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