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To: watcher1; Carry_Okie; backhoe; Black Agnes; countrydummy; newriverSister; brityank; forester; ...
I want to go HOME. I want to be free. I'm going with the FSP. Who's coming with me?

I've been talking with my family about it. Watching what's happening to my country is becoming unsufferable.

I'll certainly commit when I get enough people on board. The more I think about this idea the more I absolutely love it. I'm going to have kids soon and I want some hope for them not to have to spend their lives in a socialist s***hole.

32 posted on 11/02/2002 1:28:02 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
BTTT!!!!!!
33 posted on 11/02/2002 1:44:30 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: AAABEST
bttt 4 fsp
35 posted on 11/02/2002 2:11:30 PM PST by gcruse
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To: AAABEST
LOL! But why should the FSP be weenies chasing after a small prize like Idaho or Wyoming? Couldn't we make the FSP California? Most of the non-Mexican immigrants know enough of tyranny they'd join us in a minute, especially the Vietnamese. It really wouldn't take that many people and once done we'd have the resorce and economic base to help make us rich enough to propagate freedom around the world.

The Switzerland of the West! Besides, why not go for the good real estate? We've already got Hollywood on the run and San Francisco is geographically small enough we might just be able to tent it! A little methyl bromide and my summer home at Pacific and Divisadero would be fully fumigated!

It's not as hard as one might think to get rid of the freeloaders. Just start a Socialist State Project somewhere else and the bums will run to it like flies to feces! Might I suggest Oregon? They're already nine tenths of the way there and I am sure the voters are willing! It would make a nice contrast.

I can dream, can't I?

36 posted on 11/02/2002 2:14:25 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: AAABEST
"I've been talking with my family about it. Watching what's happening to my country is becoming unsufferable."

I realize it's somewhat hollow to say this; but, nevertheless, here it goes, anyway.
Would you find any consolation in knowing you're not alone in your sentiments?
Because you're certainly not.

"I'll certainly commit when I get enough people on board. The more I think about this idea the more I absolutely love it."

Back when the Berlin Wall came down?
I suggested to my wife that, given the desperate condition those new countries & the people living there were in?
Insofar as while they were desperately trying to be free (ie capitalist free-market economy, elected representatives et al)?
Those people didn't have a clue, did not know how to be free, either.

Suggested we just might find the *kind* of life we were promised & frankly are not getting (here);or, at least find the opportunity to build one & without the incredible bullshit-resistance we seem to be getting from our own countrymen.

She then mentioned the bitter irony of our returning to the eastern european countries our grandfather's origin; after, they risked life & limb to flee & for the exact same reason(s) we're now once again considering leaving.
More than a hundred years later; history repeats.

Needless to say, our's was only a dream; as, we're well aware of the corruption & madness which has overcome those newly created Republics.
Hell's Bells, even what's happening in the european WASP nations is a crying shame as well as a disgusting, pathetic Socialist mess.

As for inhabiting a >>state<< somewhere from among our existing states?
One populated "by" like-minded people of the "conservative" mindset?
On the face it sounds idealic.
However...

Another -- wise -- poster has already mentioned what happened the last time such a thing was attempted.
Because seriously & as sure as God made little green apples?
If such a thing came to pass, penultimately Washington would interfere to the point the place we'd created, would be unbearable, unliveable, not what we'd wanted in any shape or form.
Then, ultimately, they'd send in their goons to destroy each & every individual who dared resist their meddling ways.

No.
IF THIS WERE TO BE REALISTICALLY CARRIED OUT?
It'd have to be done as a mass-migration to a smaller, third-world nation; whereby, by virtue of our numbers & the resources we'd brought with, we'd simply take over.

I had neighbors whose daughter & son-in-law were going to -- of all places -- Belize with the idea of doing exactly what I suggested above.
I have absolutely no idea whatever became of those two, either; as, we've long since moved away from their parents.

...fwiw & fyi; both those people were stalwart Libertarians.

37 posted on 11/02/2002 2:21:07 PM PST by Landru
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To: AAABEST
Close Our Borders To All Illegals !!

Return All Illegals To Their Country Of Origin !!

Up With The Right !!

Vote For Republicans !!

GWB Is The Man !!

Death To all Muslim Extremist's !!

The RATS Are In Disarray...Eradicate The Rodents !!

Fire Democrats, Hire Republicans !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Let's Roll !!

Molon Labe !!

38 posted on 11/02/2002 2:32:12 PM PST by blackie
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To: AAABEST
Bump
40 posted on 11/02/2002 3:03:32 PM PST by facedown
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To: AAABEST
It is surprising that the Free State Project has not generated more interest and support here at FR. The last thread mentioning it degenerated rapidly into a discussion of Somalia and of course the ubiquitous "libertarians are druggies" posts.
I had come to accept as accomplished fact that liberty was in its death throws and no chance existed for its revival in my lifetime but the FSP has given me some hope. The concept is sound and the project is doable. A dedicated minority can change the world, look at how the major religions got started not to mention political movements like socialism and communism. All we need to do is take one tiny state, one already with the proper leanings at that. I've been talking about this to friends and family about this and they all seem interested.
48 posted on 11/02/2002 5:28:38 PM PST by u-89
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To: AAABEST
You already know my answer............but I'll say it !

I'm in !!

Stay Safe !

49 posted on 11/02/2002 5:28:43 PM PST by Squantos
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To: AAABEST
i have already signed up for the FSP and look forward to the selection of the promised land... Delaware looks like a possibility... i hope we can sway the whole delmarva peninsula...
51 posted on 11/02/2002 6:04:43 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: AAABEST; Squantos; madfly
I'll gladly pull up my tent stakes and move when the time is right.

Has anyone decided on a state? How much (violent or otherwise) resistance do you guys predict from the feds?

69 posted on 11/03/2002 1:57:26 PM PST by pocat
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To: AAABEST
I'm going to have kids soon

Very cool ...

Without a doubt, having children and rearing them yourself is probably the single most terrifying act of rebellion one can wage against the Machine.

I'll keep you and your future family in my prayers.

88 posted on 11/06/2002 10:58:19 AM PST by Askel5
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