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To: Soliton
In another 20 years we'll be able to create life from scratch using amino acids.

What does that have to do with the "Theory of Evolution" ? Study evolution for yourself instead of believing the endroctrination you have been taught by some well meaning professor. Make your own decisions. I think you would find the "Clonaid people" believing that Aliens created life on earth have it closer than evolution by means of macro-evolution. If it would not be for so many people falling for this hoax, it would be laughable. Evolution fails some very basic laws of science.

For example, it defies the Law of Biogenesis, & the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
1,105 posted on 12/27/2002 1:12:25 PM PST by usastandsunited
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To: usastandsunited
Evolution fails some very basic laws of science. For example, it defies the Law of Biogenesis, & the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Amazing how often these two items pop up. The so-called "Law of Biogenesis" relates to the work of Louis Pasteur, who showed that food spoiled only when exposed to bacteria in the air. This has nothing to do with the theory of evolution. The Second law of Thermodynamics is badly understood by creationists. It's use by them is recommended against by Answers in Genesis, a website which is highly regarded in creationist circles.
Arguments we think creationists should NOT use.

1,108 posted on 12/27/2002 1:53:03 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: usastandsunited
Sorry guy we debated those worn out topics hundreds of posts ago even the evolutionists who half understand science don't pull out the second Law of thermodynamics anymore and we discussed the first one fully. If you come into this debate please read the thread and dont bring back up topics already discussed explained and tossed aside. Please, please go back and read the last couple posts I made find the link to the "No Nonsense site" and get your marching orders there. That way we don't have to discuss antiscientific bunk that the creationists themselves have given up on. Next you'll be spouting you didnt evolve from a monkey or some such nonsense.


Please Some Creationist post a worthy debate please use science you understand and not science you have no more understanding of than you have of evolution. If you do that it could be a worthy debate. If you try to use science you don't understand we who do understand it will just have to explain it to you again as we have been trying to do for over a thousand posts.
1,109 posted on 12/27/2002 1:54:36 PM PST by Sentis
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To: usastandsunited
For example, it defies the Law of Biogenesis, & the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Haha. I just wanted to reitterate what Sentis and PH already drew your attention to. All the leading creationists have implored their flock to stop invoking your 2 shining examples of why evolution supposedly defies scientific laws. (Patrick Henry supplied you a wonderful link, if you didn't feel it was worthy, I beg you to click on it. It's actually from creationists, and not evil-utionists.)

The best is that in my post 1,047 to Gore3000, I even wrote that it was interesting to me that creationists have finally abandoned these ridiculous two "arguments." Apparently, I gave too much credit where none was due.

On 2nd thought, maybe you are just trolling or goofing with us. I'd prefer that to be the case... either that or your pastor is a bit behind the creationist times. FYI, the current creationist falsehoods du jour are "how did the flagella come to be?" "Irreducible complexity" and eukaryotic evolution. Focus on them, as you'll feel a bit more up to date in this non-debate.
1,114 posted on 12/27/2002 2:21:29 PM PST by whattajoke
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