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To: donh
Being repetitive and rude and unwilling to defend your proposed alternative is not quite the same thing as "ripping to shreds with logic". Tell me again how the Bible does not support slavery. I somehow missed that lecture.

When all else fails, accuse me of being rude. I am direct, yes, rude, no. I can be rude, but I try to refrain. However, I am direct, and respond to the issues the best I can. If you feel I am rude, I am sorry, I am who I am. I don't go out of my way to injure people's feelings, but I also refuse to walk on egg shells with people. If you don't like my style and arguing method, stop responding to my posts. I won't miss you. No one is holding a gun to your head.

Do you think that just because I don't answer, I don't have one. The reason I didn't answer is that I have nothing to prove to you, but now that you seem to have a triumphant attitude over my silence, I will answer. First, give me the precise verse where slavery is condoned or encouraged in the bible. Good luck - you won't be able to find it. FACT: The bible reports slavery and instructs slaves and masters to love each other but it does not condone it or encourage it. This is simply one more instance of a priori anti-Christian bias (in lieu of honest investigation) from a confirmed skeptic. QUESTION: Do you know the difference between chattel slavery and bond servanthood? Which one was practiced in ancient israel? Also, tell me, when Paul told slaves in the Roman empire to love their masters and masters to love their slaves, what do you think is the end result of that? Instead of Paul demanding that slavery end, he did better! - he demanded in the name of Christ that they love each other. Finally, who was it that ended chattel slavery in the west? Christians! Ever heard of William Wilberforce? How about the Christian abolitionists in the United States? I'm waiting for that verse, and I must caution you about context, as you do not strike me as one who understands the science of biblical hermeneutics.

6,392 posted on 02/04/2003 10:19:03 AM PST by exmarine
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To: exmarine
QUESTION: Do you know the difference between chattel slavery and bond servanthood?

No, I don't. Because when it comes to the morality of it, there isn't any.

Which one was practiced in ancient israel? Also, tell me, when Paul told slaves in the Roman empire to love their masters and masters to love their slaves, what do you think is the end result of that? Instead of Paul demanding that slavery end, he did better! - he demanded in the name of Christ that they love each other. Finally, who was it that ended chattel slavery in the west? Christians! Ever heard of William Wilberforce? How about the Christian abolitionists in the United States? I'm waiting for that verse, and I must caution you about context, as you do not strike me as one who understands the science of biblical hermeneutics.

I'll take this as a clear warning that you intend to kick around squirelly definitions & irrelevant history like a jesuit what the plain language of the bible on this subject comes to light.

One of the lesser uses of logic--lying thought your teeth right in front of the jury. Do you also have a canned lecture for us about what the meaning of "is" is?

6,402 posted on 02/04/2003 12:11:16 PM PST by donh
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