U.S. Corrects 'Southern Bias' at Civil War Sites

Reuters via Lycos.com ^ | 12/22/2002 | Alan Elsner

[IronJack]

Thank you for your informed reply. I am researching ...

[FourPeas]

Around 1.8 million people visit Gettysburg every year. Latschar said a disproportionate number were men

My guess is you'll find this true for most war memorials/museums or whatever. Generally speaking, it's more of an interest for men than women.

In 1998, he invited three prominent historians to examine the site. Their conclusion: that Gettysburg's interpretive programs had a "pervasive southern sympathy."

Hmmmm, any guesses as to how many of these "prominent historians" are 1) northerners or 2) liberal academic-weenies or 3) northern, liberal academic-weenies??

[Non-Sequitur]

Of course it's nonsense. But it's true, nonetheless.

You're overlooking the fact that slavery was abolished in the District of Columbia on April 16, 1862, almost exactly three years before Lincoln was murdered. How could the White House be staffed with slaves when owning them was illegal?

[Non-Sequitur]

My posts to you are not meant to pick any fights but are posted with all respect to you and your opinions.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Silk hell!, the south should have went with it's most popular and satisfying product. The world should have been flooded with white lightnin and country, bluegrass, jazz, dixieland, and blues music. Then everybody would have been too happy and busy dancing and fooling around, to waste time looking for an excuse to start a war.

The former Arkansans, Billy boob and Hillary Dumbperoxideblond, remind me of a joke I once heard: This hillbilly couple was walking in the Ozarks one day when they found a discarded Southern Comfort bottle with the cap still on it. They grabbed it up and twisted the cap off, salivating all over themselves in anticipation of a gulp of that wonderful stuff, but the bottle seemed empty except for a cloudy vapor that emerged and formed into what appeared to be a huge redneck with a towel around his head, hovering in the air. "Hi ya'll", that critter said, "I'm a genibubba an' fo' freein me, you get three wishes granted."

Billy boob wished to be a two term President and it was granted, as we all sadly recall; Hillary Dumbperoxideblond wished to become a Senator it was granted as we all sadly recall; then they wished to become Nu Yawk Yankees and it was granted-soon thereafter Bill and Hill turned to each other and said in unison, " ah's only bin a yankee fo' tu minnets, an' ah already hate sothurners."

[zarf]

You can say that about ANY war. The grunts rarely give a crap about what the comotion is about.

[vetvetdoug]

This is going to be a loser. What brings the people to Gettysburg is the study of military tactics and the bravery of the men on both sides. No matter how much the idiots try to appease the blacks, they still won't come because most don't give a damn.

During the 70's there was a push for the military commissaries to get more "soul food" into the commissaries to appease the blacks and make them more happy. The truth? There was a whole aisle dedicated to "Soul food" and the only ones that bought the food there were us white folks that were reared on the staple of poor people. The black military families after all of their griping went and bought the other food. After about of year of the "soul food" aisle, the commissary decided that it was a loser and much of the frozen food there had to be condemned and the idea was scrapped. I think this is what is going to happen to Gettysburg, after all of the poor visitation because of a wayward emphasis, the park will be diminished and everything significant will be either sold off or trashed.

[F.J. Mitchell]

"How could the White House be staffed with slaves when owning them was illegal?"

THe entire Federal Government to this day, exempts itself from the rules it forces the rest of us to submit to-hadn't you noticed?

[lodwick]

Gag me with a spoon. Revisionist 'rat bastards.

[Non-Sequitur]

THe entire Federal Government to this day, exempts itself from the rules it forces the rest of us to submit to-hadn't you noticed?

Except in this case. Your claim is false.

[Non-Sequitur]

THe entire Federal Government to this day, exempts itself from the rules it forces the rest of us to submit to-hadn't you noticed?

Except in this case. Your claim is false.

[Non-Sequitur]

THe entire Federal Government to this day, exempts itself from the rules it forces the rest of us to submit to-hadn't you noticed?

Except in this case. Your claim is false.

[StriperSniper]

'Affirmative History'

[Petronski]

Wow, maybe the moniker "Great Slaver Rebellion of 1861" is starting to catch on.

[F.J. Mitchell]

"I think I'm gonna be sick."

Well, you once said,"Give me liberty or give me death." The liberals are not going to give anybody liberty, and folks usually get sick before dying-you asked for it.

Had to say that Pat, couldn't help myself-devil made me say it. Just for the record I think I'm gonna be sick too.

[F.J. Mitchell]

"Your claim is false."

In what way?If they outlawed slavery in DC two years earlier and still staffed the White House domestic staff with slaves, the Executive branch of the time was either exempt from the law or as was the norm a centry later during Clinton' regime, it declared itself above the law, either equals exempt.

[pabianice]

Rewriting history alert!

[IronJack]

I have to say that you've proven your point about Southern leadership. My chronology was somewhat misplaced; the seizures of federal military facilities took place much closer to the outbreak of hostilities than I had recollected, so the ideological basis probably had developed at around the same time. All of which lends credence to your viewpoint.

However, the issue of states' rights predates that of slavery by several decades. As early as the Whiskey Rebellion in Pennsylvania, the Alien and Sedition Acts of the late 18th century, and Tariff of Abominations in the 1820's, the collision between Federalists and Anti-federalists pointed out an ideological schism that would finally sunder the nation. That it was made manifest in the issue of slavery doesn't mean that that issue DEFINED it. The immediate cause of the War was secession, prompted by abolition, rooted in the notion of Federalism. Attempts to wed the competing notions of federalism and state sovereignty had failed, and the course of war was cast.

Thank you for an enlightening discussion, and for giving me cause to dust off some forlorn but beloved reference materials.

[Rodney King]

"We want to get away from the traditional descriptions of who shot whom, where and into discussions of why they were shooting one another,"

Look, you don't have to be on either side of the FR north vs. south wars to know that battlefields should be about the battles, and not about anyone's interpretation of history.

[SandfleaCSC]

President Monroe actually came up with the black repatriation idea and formed Liberia. Abe just ran with it.