[tpaine]

"Nor is ordered liberty a euphemism for Big Brother. A pervasive order in which security is guaranteed by a massive, invasive police power that prevents crime before it happens by monitoring everything its citizens say, do and think strangles freedom. In such a society, as Orwell observed, liberty dies."

Remarks of Attorney General John Ashcroft
Eighth Circuit Judges Conference
Duluth, Minnesota
August 7, 2002
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And as he spoke, last August, planning was going forward on the massive, invasive police power 'bong bust' display of a few days ago.
An invasive power that seeks to prevent crime before it happens by monitoring everything citizens say, do and buy on the internet.

The hypocrisy of this administration has little or no limit.

[robertpaulsen]

"planning was going forward on the massive, invasive police power 'bong bust'"

"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

I hope you see a conflict between these two statements. Therein lies the problem.

Do you think there was any need for a "massive, invasive police power 'bong bust'" in the days of John Adams? Do you think a moral and religious people would be organizing "bong parties"?

You throw away morals, elevate shameful acts, denigrate religion, remove personal resonsibility --- then you look around and cry for your "Constitutional Right" to smoke dope. Sorry, you threw that away, too.

[Protagoras]

Quoting John Ashcroft on liberty is like quoting Hillary Clinton on ethics.